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Windows 7: editings "System" to show overclock


06 May 2011   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
editings "System" to show overclock

I recently began our clocking but found out that windows seven system could not read it. I found out this was caused by my cpu power saving features. Forums suggest turning off powering saving features, using cpu-z, or editing the registry. I chose to edit the registry but found out that hkey local machine/hardware/description/system/central processing/0/processor name string edits only @ frequency, but not the secondary frequency also. Is there a way to edit this frequency or remove it.


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09 May 2011   #2

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Windows can't see what? Your O/C?

It's not meant too...and this editing registry to enable what?
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09 May 2011   #3

Windows 7
 
 

Use CPUz to see your overclock. Don't mess with registry
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09 May 2011   #4

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by phyrexiancure View Post
I recently began our clocking but found out that windows seven system could not read it. I found out this was caused by my cpu power saving features. Forums suggest turning off powering saving features, using cpu-z, or editing the registry. I chose to edit the registry but found out that hkey local machine/hardware/description/system/central processing/0/processor name string edits only @ frequency, but not the secondary frequency also. Is there a way to edit this frequency or remove it.
Not sure what you're saying but if you turn off SpeedStep/EIST in the BIOS your overclock speed will be shown on the information page of Windows 7. Again, this is done in the BIOS.

See this post BTW - Wrong clock speed!

Is this what you're talking about?
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09 May 2011   #5

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

my system page in control panel shows my overclock:

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is this what you mean?

(i also have eist enabled)


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09 May 2011   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Yes, I am trying to change the second clock speed to show my overclock. I cannot do this by turning off the features that have been mentioned since my dell display those features. I was able to change the first clock speed which is part of the cpu's name, but I dont know how to do this for the second. Is there a way to turn off the second clock or edit it to show my overclock?
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09 May 2011   #7

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

To be clear: If EIST (Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology) is disabled, your overclock speed will shown because the core frequency isn't reduced, thus the processor is running full speed all the time, even if overclocked.

EIST.....

Quote:
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology allows the system to dynamically adjust processor voltage and core frequency, which can result in decreased average power consumption and decreased average heat production. By decreasing power and heat on desktop PCs, system builders can (depending on system configurations) potentially lower acoustics, and even develop more innovative small form factor designs. Additionally, this feature can help address power concerns in companies with sites approaching the limits of bounded electrical infrastructures. Combined with existing power saving features, Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology can provide an excellent balance between providing power when you need it and conserving it when you don’t.
However if EIST is enabled, the frequency is adjusted to fit user demands.

Now, looking at how Windows displays the CPU speed under the Properties page, it won't go below the designed processor speed, but it will show the OC speed if EIST is disabled.

So.....

- Enabled - Default (No OC) speed displayed - Even if a load is put on the system!
- Disabled - OC Speed displayed - even if no load is on the system.

Why Windows does it this way? I can't explain.

Here's mine with EIST Enabled!

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My processor is actually overclocked to 3.8GHz, yet the Properties pages show the default speed of 3.07GHz!

With that said....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
my system page in control panel shows my overclock:

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is this what you mean?

(i also have eist enabled)
You might want to doublecheck your EIST settings in the BIOS.

My two cents.


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09 May 2011   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Unfortunately my bios does not have these features, so wont be able to do it that way. When I was looking at a forum someone said that eist turns off clock readings due to potential confusions. During idle it would show an underclocked cpu, potentially causing a person to believe they have hardware issues.
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09 May 2011   #9

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

This is where a little reading is in order - (Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology)

Unfortunately people say a lot of erroneous things when they don't have a proper understanding of how things work and don't take the time to find out. Not that we know everything, we don't (me included )

Anyway you did the right thing by checking here and asking the question again.

Anyway EIST is basically a power saving mode for processors to use.

If you take a good look at CPU-Z you'll notice the CPU frequency readings will be low during resting or no-load states, but read the full frequency when a load is applied. What you're seeing in CPU-Z is the processor rest and load states. - That is if EIST is enabled. If not, CPU-Z will show the full processor speed all the time.

You can also make CPU-Z show the full processor speed all the time though Processor Power Management....



Does power plan actually affect performance lvl?

If you set min and max to 100% CPU-Z will show the full frequency, but.... Ironically not in the Properties page of Windows 7. I guess this is linked to the BIOS (EIST to be specific)

Hope this helps.
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09 May 2011   #10

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
my system page in control panel shows my overclock:

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is this what you mean?

(i also have eist enabled)
You might want to doublecheck your EIST settings in the BIOS.

My two cents.
i do have eist enabled - no bios screen shots, but look at these:

computer 'at rest' - cpu speed = 2.676 GHz, multiplier=6

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then i ran prime95, and cpu speed = 4.014 GHz, multiplier=9 - notice how volts have gone up too.

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...but then again, our pc's seem to work differently - remember a coupla weeks ago, when shift-send-to moved files for me, but only copied for you?

my control panel/system page always shows 4.01 GHz when at rest, or under load.

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*edit* just for the hell of it, here's my bios settings: eist is set to 'auto' rather than 'disabled'

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