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Windows 7: Help overclocking my 6970

29 Jan 2012   #31

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
25mhz for each is a nice and precise amount.
so i crash around core 1105 memory 1475. if im correct, the only thing i really need to be scared of it temp correct?

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30 Jan 2012   #32

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To stress test you GPU you can use FurMark or MSI Kombustor. Both will stress both the OC, and the temps.

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30 Jan 2012   #33

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To stress test you GPU you can use FurMark or MSI Kombustor. Both will stress both the OC, and the temps.

Video Card - Stress Test with Furmark

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ty for this
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30 Jan 2012   #34

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if i may ask... what does msi afterburner that trixx doesnt have, not to say i dont agree or that youre wrong...
The main reason I suggested AB is that it's a proven OC app that works on both AMD and nvidia cards. Trixx hasn't earned it's rep yet.

I've been using it for quite a while with a few different cards and it's a solid tool. I haven't used Trixx as it's only for AMD cards.

They essentially do the same thing, so it's more of a personal preference. AB also has Kombuster included in the d/l as a separate installation (a burn in/furmark like stability app).

Ultimately all you need is a reliable app that adjusts your clock speeds and voltages. Try both and use whichever one you prefer.



As already mentioned, start by increasing the core and mem on stock volts, test with kombuster/furmark - look for artifacts (flickering, dots, app crash, system crash etc)

When you find the wall with stock volts, then you bump the voltage up a notch. Re-test / increase core and mem. Always keep an eye on temps. To play it 'safe' you can always set the fan to 100% during testing and adjust that later.


Start with a baby OC like 900/1400 and walk it up in increments. (920/1425, 940/1450, 950/1500 etc)


It's the excess voltage that is more dangerous than increasing core/mem speeds.

The worst that can happen when testing the limits on stock volts is that the PC will crash. There is no 'dangerous' clock speed per se. Simply keep an eye on the temps as you increase.
idk inf you know much about CPU OCing but you seem like you could, im at 1.4 volts, and just toped out with a BSOD wit my multiplyer 19.5x in OverDrive, at 19x i have taring and stuff, think the BSOD was voltage? i have added a second fan to my rather cheap heat sink and im sitting at a nice 50-54 degrees at any givin time, so i think i can rule out temp
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31 Jan 2012   #35

 
 

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idk inf you know much about CPU OCing but you seem like you could, im at 1.4 volts, and just toped out with a BSOD wit my multiplyer 19.5x in OverDrive, at 19x i have taring and stuff, think the BSOD was voltage?
It's hard to say, as it's not just voltage that could be a factor here, especially using Overdrive. It could be CPU voltage, it could be memory timings, mem volts etc. Especially since you've got 10GB (hopefully all the same timings and not mismatched kits)

Honestly, if you want to overclock - leave overdrive alone and do it from the BIOS. That way you have much more control and know what is being changed. Software based overclocking for CPU's are still pretty 'meh'.

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im sitting at a nice 50-54 degrees at any givin time, so i think i can rule out temp
Idle or full load using a stress testing app like Prime95? 54c is actually kind of warm for idle.

I'd wait until you get that better cooler before going too much further with the CPU volts.
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31 Jan 2012   #36

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton View Post

idk inf you know much about CPU OCing but you seem like you could, im at 1.4 volts, and just toped out with a BSOD wit my multiplyer 19.5x in OverDrive, at 19x i have taring and stuff, think the BSOD was voltage?
It's hard to say, as it's not just voltage that could be a factor here, especially using Overdrive. It could be CPU voltage, it could be memory timings, mem volts etc. Especially since you've got 10GB (hopefully all the same timings and not mismatched kits)

Honestly, if you want to overclock - leave overdrive alone and do it from the BIOS. That way you have much more control and know what is being changed. Software based overclocking for CPU's are still pretty 'meh'.

Phenom II AM3 Overclocking Essentials | TechREACTION

AMD Phenom II IMC and RAM Overclocking Guide | TechREACTION



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im sitting at a nice 50-54 degrees at any givin time, so i think i can rule out temp
Idle or full load using a stress testing app like Prime95? 54c is actually kind of warm for idle.

I'd wait until you get that better cooler before going too much further with the CPU volts.
i idle around 24-33, sry for not mentioning that. i like overdrive cuz i can make instant changes instead of having to restart. it 1 point i bought a new case and had to replace ALL by shor 8in sata 3 cables with 20in sata 2 which is much slower on start up. takes my pc about 5-8 minutes before i can actually do anything with it, after that it runs just fine, but if you get where im going, i dont exactly like the ida of restarting more often than i have to. also, my unfortunate stock board from hp (getting new 1 shortly, THANK GOD) will not let me do SQUAT in the bios, everything is grayd out for "hp administrators"
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31 Jan 2012   #37

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton View Post

idk inf you know much about CPU OCing but you seem like you could, im at 1.4 volts, and just toped out with a BSOD wit my multiplyer 19.5x in OverDrive, at 19x i have taring and stuff, think the BSOD was voltage?
It's hard to say, as it's not just voltage that could be a factor here, especially using Overdrive. It could be CPU voltage, it could be memory timings, mem volts etc. Especially since you've got 10GB (hopefully all the same timings and not mismatched kits)

Honestly, if you want to overclock - leave overdrive alone and do it from the BIOS. That way you have much more control and know what is being changed. Software based overclocking for CPU's are still pretty 'meh'.

Phenom II AM3 Overclocking Essentials | TechREACTION

AMD Phenom II IMC and RAM Overclocking Guide | TechREACTION



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im sitting at a nice 50-54 degrees at any givin time, so i think i can rule out temp
Idle or full load using a stress testing app like Prime95? 54c is actually kind of warm for idle.

I'd wait until you get that better cooler before going too much further with the CPU volts.
i idle around 24-33, sry for not mentioning that. i like overdrive cuz i can make instant changes instead of having to restart. it 1 point i bought a new case and had to replace ALL by shor 8in sata 3 cables with 20in sata 2 which is much slower on start up. takes my pc about 5-8 minutes before i can actually do anything with it, after that it runs just fine, but if you get where im going, i dont exactly like the ida of restarting more often than i have to. also, my unfortunate stock board from hp (getting new 1 shortly, THANK GOD) will not let me do SQUAT in the bios, everything is grayd out for "hp administrators"
i should metntion the new mobo comes with sata 3 cables lol
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31 Jan 2012   #38

 
 

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i idle around 24-33, sry for not mentioning that.
No worries

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takes my pc about 5-8 minutes before i can actually do anything with it, after that it runs just fine, but if you get where im going, i dont exactly like the ida of restarting more often than i have to.
I can see how that would be tedious

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also, my unfortunate stock board from hp (getting new 1 shortly, THANK GOD) will not let me do SQUAT in the bios, everything is grayd out for "hp administrators"
Ahh, a locked BIOS. In this case Overdrive is the best of a bad situation.

But when the new board arrives, then I'd consider BIOS over Overdrive (a new board might slash that start up time too).

I still don't know if it's purely voltage, but if you increase the voltage a bit and don't let the temps get any higher, it's worth a shot increasing it.

Otherwise lower the multi and settle for a lower clock speed for the time being.
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31 Jan 2012   #39

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton View Post
i idle around 24-33, sry for not mentioning that.
No worries

Quote:
takes my pc about 5-8 minutes before i can actually do anything with it, after that it runs just fine, but if you get where im going, i dont exactly like the ida of restarting more often than i have to.
I can see how that would be tedious

Quote:
also, my unfortunate stock board from hp (getting new 1 shortly, THANK GOD) will not let me do SQUAT in the bios, everything is grayd out for "hp administrators"
Ahh, a locked BIOS. In this case Overdrive is the best of a bad situation.

But when the new board arrives, then I'd consider BIOS over Overdrive (a new board might slash that start up time too).

I still don't know if it's purely voltage, but if you increase the voltage a bit and don't let the temps get any higher, it's worth a shot increasing it.

Otherwise lower the multi and settle for a lower clock speed for the time being.
how much should i increase it by just for a tiny boost to see if it helps? right now im at 1.4v, just go up to 1.5?
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31 Jan 2012   #40

 
 

1.4 -1.5v is a bit more than a 'tiny' boost

1.425-1.45v is a bit more realistic. Just make sure you keep an eye on the temps.
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