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Windows 7: help fixing bad stability

13 May 2012   #31
Thornton

windows 7 Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
Thorton,
What is your cooling solution as you just have fan posted? I found that with stock cooling I shut down with much less clock than with my current.
i just upgraded to an NH-D14 less than 48 hours ago, works finominally, i idle between 29c and 31c, at full load am at only about 37c, and when OCing, have not seen higher than 51c yet


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13 May 2012   #32
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Great cooler upgrade. I have the same chip but I'm OC'g the CPU and ram so it's a whole different set up. What thermal compound did you use? I would be happy with 4.0 as with water the best I'm getting stable is 4.1 and I can push harder but like you find it will crash. The differences are not noticeable at all. I'm driven like you to push it see but in the real world of computing the added speed between stable 4.0 vs 4.1 or 4.2 isn't worth the added stress. As you've seen all chips and systems have there own sweet spot.
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13 May 2012   #33
Thornton

windows 7 Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
Great cooler upgrade. I have the same chip but I'm OC'g the CPU and ram so it's a whole different set up. What thermal compound did you use? I would be happy with 4.0 as with water the best I'm getting stable is 4.1 and I can push harder but like you find it will crash. The differences are not noticeable at all. I'm driven like you to push it see but in the real world of computing the added speed between stable 4.0 vs 4.1 or 4.2 isn't worth the added stress. As you've seen all chips and systems have there own sweet spot.
even if i dont notice it, im a 3d developer, and rendering times to make somthing that looks real can take hours, ever.1ghz shaves a couple minutes off


fto add, im using the noctua thermal compund as i have seen posts of people stating that there are benchmarks where it clearly outperforms arctic silver
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13 May 2012   #34
Thornton

windows 7 Professional
 
 



its not a huge difference as you can see, but noctua is winning in this one, close first
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13 May 2012   #35
Thornton

windows 7 Professional
 
 

this is very odd, my control bench mark, stock, pulls a score of 5588. OCd, stable at 4.0 it pulls 5559. i dont get how being stable at a higher ghz could resault in a LOWER score
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13 May 2012   #36
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

My experience with the 965BE is i didn't need to tweek voltages at all it could be your over stressing the cpu

Most 965 can do 4 Ghz off stock voltage via multiplyer

I can't imagine using as much juice as you are mine never went over 1.37 on stock voltage at 4 Ghz and it stayed under 25c

I think you need to re do the overclocking but im sure the ram you have is causing the issue 10 GB of ram sounds odd i would try just using 8 and dump the 2 gigs you really won't see that much of a jump unless you are overclocking the ram as well

That's probally a good reason it isn't stable also did you ever consider a bios upgrade ?

Anyway I figure you put way to much juice on that chip and you should be able to hit that stock at the door unless your board is really holding you back
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13 May 2012   #37
Thornton

windows 7 Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
My experience with the 965BE is i didn't need to tweek voltages at all it could be your over stressing the cpu

Most 965 can do 4 Ghz off stock voltage via multiplyer

I can't imagine using as much juice as you are mine never went over 1.37 on stock voltage at 4 Ghz and it stayed under 25c

I think you need to re do the overclocking but im sure the ram you have is causing the issue 10 GB of ram sounds odd i would try just using 8 and dump the 2 gigs you really won't see that much of a jump unless you are overclocking the ram as well

That's probally a good reason it isn't stable also did you ever consider a bios upgrade ?

Anyway I figure you put way to much juice on that chip and you should be able to hit that stock at the door unless your board is really holding you back
im getting this argument aswell, but im actually upgrading the ram to 16gb. i know it seems like overkill but untill you start seriously 3d designing its somthing hard to wrap your brain around. when an application is caching, pulling, and recaching by the thousanth of second, your ram fills up fast, and having more leaves more room for regular operations and for it to cache more and move more smoothely. i know this all sounds like it would be done on the gpu, the graphics portion is, but when you are making somthing, the graphics card is caching post render, when the information to actually create the object on the screen is all being cached in you standard ram.

(out of breathe) sry for being mr block of txt, but explaining it is hard over txt.

i will try dropping the voltages to stock, but what i find, from several attempts earlier was that i crashed within 30 seconds of cranking it up
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13 May 2012   #38
Thornton

windows 7 Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
My experience with the 965BE is i didn't need to tweek voltages at all it could be your over stressing the cpu

Most 965 can do 4 Ghz off stock voltage via multiplyer

I can't imagine using as much juice as you are mine never went over 1.37 on stock voltage at 4 Ghz and it stayed under 25c

I think you need to re do the overclocking but im sure the ram you have is causing the issue 10 GB of ram sounds odd i would try just using 8 and dump the 2 gigs you really won't see that much of a jump unless you are overclocking the ram as well

That's probally a good reason it isn't stable also did you ever consider a bios upgrade ?

Anyway I figure you put way to much juice on that chip and you should be able to hit that stock at the door unless your board is really holding you back
i tried stock voltage (1.4v) and only upped my north bridge, from 1.1, to 1.125. and i ran it at 3.9ghz. i crashed at exactly 1 minute and 38 seconds
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13 May 2012   #39
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

What exact model number is this AMD mobo?
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13 May 2012   #40
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

is all the ram the same and has there been any ram error's if you get a complete 16gb mem kit it should be consistant when you match different ram or the same ram but packaged in different boxes it can also cause bad results
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