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Windows 7: Need some advice on chosen parts for my new build

23 Aug 2012   #11
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I agree with ignatzatsonic on the motherboard. It is a waste of money to buy a K CPU and an H77 motherboard. If you want a K CPU get a Z68 GEN 3 board or a Z77. The 3570K is a stronger CPU than the 2500K, but if you want to overclock it, you will need a better CPU cooler, they run very hot during stress testing. During normal useage they run about the same temps though. As far as cases, Coolermaster HAF cases are nice in that they use large fans that are very quiet and move a lot of air, Corsair makes some good cases but if you want to 'style' with your case, look at the Thermaltake Level 10, if you want to spend that much money. It is true that cases are a matter of taste, but you can find some nice cases that offer both good performance and good looks too, no matter what your taste is.


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23 Aug 2012   #12
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Case, case, case. Their are bunches and bunches to choose from. Some very good brands have been mentioned. Once you get past how pretty it is I recommend thinking functionality.
1. Does the case have very good cooling or better.
2. Does the case have the ability to improve the air flow by adding fans if you so choose to do so.
3. Does the case have access to the back of the motherboard so you can remove the cpu cooler if needed.
4. Does the case have a designed in method for proper neat cable management.
5. Is the case large enough to make it easier to work inside and add things later if you care to.
Note: Some Branded cases that are called full size are actually smaller than other Branded mid size case. Look at the measurements. Also conceder the weight. Normal the heaver case made out of the same materials have more material and are built stronger. Aluminum cases compared against other aluminum case for example.
It will take a little homework on your part but you computer will thank you for your efforts.
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24 Aug 2012   #13
saroy94

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

So far i'm sticking with the NZXT Phantom. I love it's unique look, but thanks for the guidelines.

I now have a new dilemma. Buy a gaming pc or build one myself. I can buy either but built rigs cost cheaper if i was to buy each part separately!
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24 Aug 2012   #14
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saroy94 View Post

I now have a new dilemma. Buy a gaming pc or build one myself. I can buy either but built rigs cost cheaper if i was to buy each part separately!
The higher the overall cost, the more you save by building yourself.

At say $700 or $800, it's fairly close. As you go beyond 1000, the bought PC is a lot more expensive---the higher priced parts are marked up excessively by the builder----$150 for going from 8 GB RAM to 16 GB; $200 or more for a second hard drive; $200 for a modest monitor upgrade; etc.

And you apparently pay extra for flashy stuff and doo-dads that have no effect at all on gaming performance.
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24 Aug 2012   #15
saroy94

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

Tbh if it's going to save me money then i'd rather buy a ready-made system of my own choice, so I can get more out of my money. I'll only be spending roughly 800 nothing majorly more than that
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24 Aug 2012   #16
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saroy94 View Post
Tbh if it's going to save me money then i'd rather buy a ready-made system of my own choice, so I can get more out of my money. I'll only be spending roughly 800 nothing majorly more than that
Ready-made may or may not save you money.

Depends on the particular PC and the particular parts. Less likely to help the more you spend.

The largest advantage of self-built is the complete control over parts and the likely avoidance of an OEM Windows license. And the freedom from aggravation by customer service.
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24 Aug 2012   #17
saroy94

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

Hmmm true true. I just want the most out of my money parents are helping me buy the pc anyway, giving me around 350 so tbh I don't mind it being around 800 either way.

I'd find it more fun in a way if i build a pc because it's sort of turning into a hobby for me, then i'd start overclocking and maybe case modding too. I just want to excplore the possibilities of computers! Plus my parents think i'm so cool haha
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24 Aug 2012   #18
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saroy94 View Post
Plus my parents think i'm so cool haha
Yeah, it's always fun to confuse your parents.

All I can suggest is to make another post when you have your ready-built chosen and we can decide then if it's cheaper than self-built.

A couple of more things about ready-made:

If you later decide to upgrade the parts in it, you may find there are some non-standard parts that would conflict with your upgrade plans. Cases and PSUs found in ready-made are sometimes unusual in some way. You avoid this by building your own.

You will clearly learn more by researching your own parts and building it yourself. Most people who buy ready-made rarely if ever open the case and know little about what's happening in there other than software.
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24 Aug 2012   #19
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

You also get to choose the quality and features of your own build. Most ready made companies put whatever parts the can get the cheapest in the machine. After all, like this discussion, they are competing on price, not quality and features. And if you buy from places like Dell, HP or Gateway, forget overclocking. The BIOS is locked usually.
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24 Aug 2012   #20
saroy94

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

Yeah i'm just gonna buy my own parts now. It's more loving then, like it's my own son rather than adopting a random one.
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