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26 Mar 2013   #1771
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

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Yes I see your point. I was basing my info off JEDEC standards, it's a technicality so to say, my ram runs at 1600. I did not mean to cause confusion, but as my screenshot shows I have 1333 ram overclocked to 1600.
Dude, your ram is running at 1600. It is 1600 ram. What I think you are looking at are JEDC specs which show the different frequencies the ram is capable of. If you are looking at the SPD tab at the max bandwidth, almost all ram says that. It is only a spec telling your motherbooadr the ram speed and timings to allow it to boot the first time. After you get into bios and set the timings, frequency and voltage, then your ram will run at specs. I have 2400MHz ram. The board is not capable of posting it at 2400MHz without the correct timings and voltage. After giving the board the correct timings and voltage, it will run at specs. True 1333MHz ram is not capable of running at 2400MHz, no matter what timings and voltage you use. If you look, my 2400 MHz sats the same.

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26 Mar 2013   #1772
Dude

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

Thanks for the good info essenbe and Britton30
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26 Mar 2013   #1773
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

No problem Dude. Gary, Tradesman explained it quite well on G Skill forum, but I can't find his post explaining CPUz and what the max bandwidth really means. It is basically telling the board how to boot it the first time. It is not the max bandwidth of the ram, just the bandwidth for the board to post.
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26 Mar 2013   #1774
Dude

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

Man I love a good brain wrinkle!


This thread essenbe?

Misconceptions from CPU-Z - G.SKILL TECH FORUM
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26 Mar 2013   #1775
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

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Yes most Ram is 1333. Even when we buy 1600 or whatever it's actually 1333 by JEDEC standard, the merely add the timings to the profile (xmp) and sell it as 1600.
Do you have a link to this info? I don't think that is correct.
It isn't.
Steve I am not that that bright when it comes to this stuff but that / those standards might be in this somewhere. Standards & Documents Search | JEDEC

Oops mean tot add my Asus Z77 board I have 2400 sticks in now and the board I think limits that to 2100 max and it did default back to 1333 when I first got it but like I said not too bright on this stuff and I might have been doing something wrong .
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26 Mar 2013   #1776
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dude View Post
Man I love a good brain wrinkle!


This thread essenbe?

Misconceptions from CPU-Z - G.SKILL TECH FORUM
Yes, that's it. I think it explains it pretty well.
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26 Mar 2013   #1777
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

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Do you have a link to this info? I don't think that is correct.
It isn't.
Steve I am not that that bright when it comes to this stuff but that / those standards might be in this somewhere. Standards & Documents Search | JEDEC

Oops mean tot add my Asus Z77 board I have 2400 sticks in now and the board I think limits that to 2100 max and it did default back to 1333 when I first got it but like I said not too bright on this stuff and I might have been doing something wrong .
John, I went there and they wanted me to register and in some cases buy some of the articles. needless to say I didn't. But, the article linked by Dude explains it fairly well, I think. All boards have a default memory speed, usually 1333 or 1600. It will not run ram any faster than it's default speed unless you basically overclock it, to the board's perspective. That is what the max bandwidth is for. To tell the board what it can boot at on initial startup or after resetting CMOS. After you get into bios, you can set the frequency, voltage and timings for the ram to run at it's rated speed. It has nothing to do with the max bandwidth of the ram, but to the board. When you set the timings and frequency so your ram will run at a higher frequency cpuz max frequency states it will run at, to the board you have overclocked the ram because it is running faster than the board's default speed. To the ram, it is running stock as that is what frequency it was made to run at.

But, as I understand it, the physical qualities of the stick of 2133 ram is much different than a stick of 1333 ram. Ram can be overclocked to run higher than it's rated speed, but only to an extent. I don't believe it is possible, no matter what timings and frequency you put in bios for a stick of 1333 ram to run at 2400. All ram is 1333 but the timings are changed to make it run faster is not true. All boards default ram to 1333 is true. Gary and I had the same 2133 ram and the same board once. We both tried to overclock it to 2400, but never came close. We did get it to run faster than 2133 but not even close to 2400. Gary got closer than me, but that is another story. But you have to add in that some boards are not made to run ram faster than a certain speed and the memory controller in the CPU plays a part in that too. I'm no expert on ram, but that is pretty close to the way I understand it. To show you, with your ram set to 2100, run winsat which shows its actual bandwidth. You will see that it is faster than the 'max frequency' stated on cpuz. I hope that made sense. I know what I was trying to say, but I'm not sure I explained it right.
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26 Mar 2013   #1778
Adam23

Windows 7 Ultimate 64x
 
 

My pc, My Corsair h100i died after 2 days, waiting on a RMA but would like to share my pics





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26 Mar 2013   #1779
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

The latest H100i's are having some issues. Funny the prices are falling for the i's and rising for the originals. Your rig looks great and Corsair will stand behind the H100 and you'll have to post new shots when the H100i is re-installed.
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26 Mar 2013   #1780
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

@essenbe John, I went there and they wanted me to register

Hey must have been doing the same thing at the same time I saw that and was tempted to try and register but well I reckon it would have all been bit too much (highbrow) for me so I left it. Plus a you say that article by Dude is quite good enough for what I understand.
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