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Windows 7: Want to build my first AMD based computer

18 Dec 2012   #41
pmshah

windows 7
 
 

I have been a loyal fan of AMD for more than 15 years. However due to my horrible experience with AMD chipsets and mobo makers I have reluctantly moved to Intel platform.

Here is the list of some of the problems that neither the mobo makers nor AMD even bothered to resolve.

1. CPU overheating. I live in India and we have higher ambient temperature than almost all western countries. Only way I could run the systems was to take the cover off the PC and have direct draft from a desert cooler blowing at it.

2. USB support. The integrated USB 2.0 support was absolutely horrible. In stead of using the well proven Via or NEC chipset AMD went in for designing and integrating their own version. Couldn't even get the USB keyboard / mouse to function properly. Externally powered USB HDDs would simply connect / disconnect at its own whim leading to a lot of corrupted files. Finally had to install an old Via chipset based controller in pci slot to sort out that problem.

3. I have 3 PCs connected to a 4 port KVM switch through USB + VGA ports. These are : 2 year old Zotac dual core Atom mini-itx, a 4 year old Jetway Via C7 mini-itx ( both consuming under 30 watts measured at the wall socket) and a 3 year old MSI quad Phenon 9650 (consuming 120 watts !). The first 2 had absolutely no problem with the KVM switch. The MSI had all kinds of problem. Half the times it would not recognize KB/Mouse until windows loaded the right drivers. I had to keep PS2 keyboard AND mouse permanently connected to sort out the problem. Neither MSI nor AMD even bothered to answer my umpteen queries for a solution.

Finally Gigabyte AND MSI sc***ed me over warranty. In the first case (an AMD Athlon 1500) with more than 10 months of warranty still remaining the motherboard just shuttled between my home and their service center. After 10 months of this they simply raised their hands and claimed that it was out of warranty. In the second case (MSI quad Phenom) similar shuttling exercise took place. Finally they replaced it with a reworked lower grade motherboard which gave up the ghost about 6 months ago ( no more video), and still under warranty ! I got so sick of communicating with them that I just went out and bought a compatible Biostar mobo which is working fine.

I am now building a new system with an Intel i3-3220T cpu, Intel DH77EB motherboard, 2x8 gb Corsair Vengeance ram and a 2.5" - 750 gb WD Scorpio Black Hard disk. This is of course a low performance system but more than adequate for my requirements and runs at under 40 watts at the wall socket with a 400 watt smps !!! My main criterion being LOW power consumption ! It far outperforms the Phenom system at 1/3 the power consumption.

Nest thing I will be doing is to transplant the unused built in power supply from the Antec ISK300-65 mini-itx cabinet. At present it hosts the Zotac mini-itx with its own onboard power system running off of an external laptop type power supply.

So I would suggest you google and read up on "usb problem on AMD chipset" before finalizing your selection.


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18 Dec 2012   #42
jadinolf

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
If you do go for AM3+ look at the 970 based boards if only going to use a single card, if SLI/Crossfire is a consideration look at the 990 based boards. For the most part that is the only real difference between the two,

AMD 900 chipset series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and can save a few $$. As for which manufacturer, comes down to price and whatever other features may be available.
Been lookin'

Newegg.com - ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
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18 Dec 2012   #43
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Sweet and a great value !
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19 Dec 2012   #44
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jadinolf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
If you do go for AM3+ look at the 970 based boards if only going to use a single card, if SLI/Crossfire is a consideration look at the 990 based boards. For the most part that is the only real difference between the two,

AMD 900 chipset series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and can save a few $$. As for which manufacturer, comes down to price and whatever other features may be available.
Been lookin'

Newegg.com - ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Look pretty solid are you going to go with the basic cpu cooler that comes with the AMD chip or will you be buying aftermarket cooling solution i can see some good overclocks in your future
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19 Dec 2012   #45
jadinolf

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jadinolf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
If you do go for AM3+ look at the 970 based boards if only going to use a single card, if SLI/Crossfire is a consideration look at the 990 based boards. For the most part that is the only real difference between the two,

AMD 900 chipset series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and can save a few $$. As for which manufacturer, comes down to price and whatever other features may be available.
Been lookin'

Newegg.com - ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Look pretty solid are you going to go with the basic cpu cooler that comes with the AMD chip or will you be buying aftermarket cooling solution i can see some good overclocks in your future
Well, I always used the Intel coolers. Three of them have been spinning for 6 years and haven't failed.

Assuming the AMD coolers are as good, I will use it.
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19 Dec 2012   #46
jadinolf

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
Sweet and a great value !
Thanks but does that motherboard go with the CPU I linked to?

I know nothing about the AMD line and you guys are my brain.

No one in my area knows anything about it.
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19 Dec 2012   #47
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

Looks like the MB you picked will work with this AMD CPU

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard


AM3+ 8-Core CPU, XFast LAN / USB, UEFI, C.C.R $69.99
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In stock. Limit 5 per customer.

  • AM3+
  • AMD 970
  • 4240pin DDR3 2100(OC) / 1866(OC) / 1800(OC) / 1600(OC) / 1333 / 1066 / 800





Free Shipping, Price Guarantee & Extended Returns on this Product.

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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX



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19 Dec 2012   #48
jadinolf

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
Looks like the MB you picked will work with this AMD CPU

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard


AM3+ 8-Core CPU, XFast LAN / USB, UEFI, C.C.R $69.99
4 /5 (584) | Write a Review
In stock. Limit 5 per customer.

  • AM3+
  • AMD 970
  • 4240pin DDR3 2100(OC) / 1866(OC) / 1800(OC) / 1600(OC) / 1333 / 1066 / 800





Free Shipping, Price Guarantee & Extended Returns on this Product.

Hassle-Free Holiday Shopping with the Iron EggSM Guarantee (restrictions apply...)
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX



5 /5 (2,439) | Write a Review only $99.99
Well, thanks DocBrown.

Can't order before 12/21. That's when my AMEX month will be clean.
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19 Dec 2012   #49
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

Make sure you have entered their email mailing list weekly specials as they could post some last minute smokin deals with only a couple of days before christmas,
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19 Dec 2012   #50
jadinolf

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
Make sure you have entered their email mailing list weekly specials as they could post some last minute smokin deals with only a couple of days before christmas,
Oh, I have been a loyal customer of theirs since June of 2001. I have over 30 pages of orders on their books and yes, I am on their emailing list and get two regulars every day plus whatever others they are sprinkling in during the holiday season.

I don't need much now. I have the case, a 500G SATA HDD, the wireless USB adapter, SATA cables and another fan so far. So, I need a cheap DVD Burner, the CPU, motherboard and 8G of memory and I almost forgot Windows 7 64 bit.
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