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Windows 7: Need help with cpu coolant for a pc build i am thinking of doing.

17 Mar 2013   #21
linnemeyerhere

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We may see dual compatible DDR3 and DDR4 mobo's I hope, as you know the mobo Mfgr's are tooled up for it !


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17 Mar 2013   #22
essenbe

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
We may see dual compatible DDR3 and DDR4 mobo's I hope, as you know the mobo Mfgr's are tooled up for it !
Alan, do you really think that is feasible? the Dimms are completely different.

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17 Mar 2013   #23
linnemeyerhere

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Apparently my idea won't work....damn.....I have a ASrock DDR2 and 3 mobo and I thought that was slick....oh well thanks for shattering that idea ! lol
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17 Mar 2013   #24
ICIT2LOL

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
We may see dual compatible DDR3 and DDR4 mobo's I hope, as you know the mobo Mfgr's are tooled up for it !
Alan, do you really think that is feasible? the Dimms are completely different.

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Well Steve I reckon one could always try banging it in with a hammer. Seems to me someone around here is not satisfied with anything very much and should get on and do it.
You can please most of the people most of the time some you cannot please at all
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17 Mar 2013   #25
kbrady1979

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Haswell is closer than DDR4, and since it is only a couple of months away, I figured it would be worth waiting for to get in on Haswell's performance or Ivy Bridge's cheaper parts.
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17 Mar 2013   #26
essenbe

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Sorry to burst your bubble, Alan.

Well, I think eventually, things will change. But, right now I don't see it being any better than DDR3. I'm sure that will change in time. Last I read, DDR4 will come out with 2133MT/s transfer rate, or the equivalent to DDR3-2133 ram. Only with 1.0-1.2V Vs. DDR3-2133 at 1.65V. So, it seems that it will be lower voltage (which most of us care little about) but the same or lower speeds. I'm running DDR3-2400 ram right now. The early specs on it was a maximum transfer rate of 3200 MT/s, but you can buy DDR3 with the same transfer rate.

It seems it was a revolutionary concept when created in 2005. DDR2 was the dominant ram at the time and DDR3 was just out/just coming out. But, since the conception of DDR4, DDR3 has come out with higher and higher speeds. With what little I understand about ram and DDR4, I fail to see the advantage. But, I'm sure there is much I don't understand about it.

Besides, most of this technology is and has to be led by Intel. They have to make a CPU to accommodate it. I have read where they say they have no intention of doing that at this time.
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17 Mar 2013   #27
ICIT2LOL

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Haswell is closer than DDR4, and since it is only a couple of months away, I figured it would be worth waiting for to get in on Haswell's performance or Ivy Bridge's cheaper parts.
Hum KB looking briefly at the info the Haswell is still 22nm and is only going to save on power usage as far as I can make out the desktop versions are not that much different in power usage compared to the Ivy's.
The only real advantage I can see is in laptops or those err "things"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bri...roarchitecture)
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17 Mar 2013   #28
essenbe

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Haswell is closer than DDR4, and since it is only a couple of months away, I figured it would be worth waiting for to get in on Haswell's performance or Ivy Bridge's cheaper parts.
Kelly, do you really think Haswell will make Ivy Bridge cheaper? Ivy Bridge seems to have done little to make Sandy Bridge cheaper. On Newegg right now a 2600K is $319 and a 3770K is $329.
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17 Mar 2013   #29
kbrady1979

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It will make IB CPU's drop for the first month or so, just like SB. I saw SB CPU's drop up to $50 when IB came out. Good time to snatch up IB parts. Also, I do believe Haswell will be a tad faster clock-for-clock than previous generations. Not much, but some. I just don't think it will hurt to wait at least until review sites get their hands on Haswell chips to see how well they perform......either they will be more efficient and more powerful than IB or not. Getting more information never hurt.
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17 Mar 2013   #30
ICIT2LOL

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
It will make IB CPU's drop for the first month or so, just like SB. I saw SB CPU's drop up to $50 when IB came out. Good time to snatch up IB parts. Also, I do believe Haswell will be a tad faster clock-for-clock than previous generations. Not much, but some. I just don't think it will hurt to wait at least until review sites get their hands on Haswell chips to see how well they perform......either they will be more efficient and more powerful than IB or not. Getting more information never hurt.
Hum well I didn't see much change in those refs i sent but if the IB does drop them I might upgrade my i5 for an i7.
Plus I reckon it really does depend on what we are talking about in efficiency? power usage? core speeds? I/O transfer? or what? I any case you are going to have to match that with some fairly decent RAM? not to mention as Steve says the board.
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