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Windows 7: I've been trying to build a custom PC for a while now, any help?

20 Mar 2013   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 
I've been trying to build a custom PC for a while now, any help?

SO yeah, i'm kinda new here and i've been trying to come up with some parts for a new pc I want to make, here are the specs:


Corsair Vengeance Blue 8 GB (2X4 GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s
ASUS P8Z77-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z77
Intel Core i7-3770K Quad-Core Processor 3.5 GHz 8 MB Cache LGA 1155
MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition
Corsair Enthusiast Series 650-Watt 80 Plus Bronze
Corsair Vengeance Series Military Green C70
Crucial m4 64GB 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive (For Boot and games like battlefield, crysis, etc.)
Creative Labs SB0570L4 Sound Blaster Audigy SE Sound Card

Any suggestions/recomendations? Any opinion is welcome

Also, I really dont know about the PSU, is it enough? or is it way more than i need for those components?


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20 Mar 2013   #2

 

The PSU is major overkill. This system could be easily powered by a quality-made 400W power supply, and that's not the minimum either!

I'm curious: I see that you want the 3770K. Will you be overclocking?

Finally, I recommend avoiding the Audigy SE for a modern build like yours. It won't really be much better than the onboard audio.
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20 Mar 2013   #3

Windows 7 Professional x64 Linux Mint 16
 
 

I just got the black C70, I`m happy with it. Also installed the HX650.
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20 Mar 2013   #4

Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
 
 

Looks like a really good rig.

Also I don't think the PSU is too overkill, it's nice to have room to expand. I just had to buy a 600W because I tried to go small the first time.
Though Sound Cards on the other hand, they're kinda unecessary unless you're a true audiophile
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20 Mar 2013   #5

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BEEFSTIX View Post
Looks like a really good rig.

Also I don't think the PSU is too overkill, it's nice to have room to expand. I just had to buy a 600W because I tried to go small the first time.
Though Sound Cards on the other hand, they're kinda unecessary unless you're a true audiophile
I can't find a review of the GTX 660 Ti that I like, however the GTX 670 has a very similar power draw. So, here's a review of the GTX 670:

GeForce GTX 670 2 and 3-way SLI review - Power Consumption

With one GTX 670 under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 279W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling during this test, so I have to add 77W for the 3770K under full load (at stock). That makes the PSU pulling 356W from the wall outlet. So if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 356W from the wall outlet, then that means the system is only pulling 303W from the PSU. However, this is an unrealistically high power draw because I'm saying that both the 670 and the 3770K are under full load at the same time in Guru3D's power-hungry system. The actual gaming power draw will be closer to about 250 to 275W at the most. Not only that, but I'm talking about the GTX 670 here when he's looking at the GTX 660 Ti.

So yeah, this means that even a quality-made 350W power supply is enough because the maximum power draw will only be reached when playing the most intense and demanding video games. This will result in the maximum efficiency for the PSU because again, the maximum power draw will only ever get up to 250-275W.

For future upgrades, well each new generation of GPUs and CPUs requires less power than the previous, so it's not really enough of a concern which is why I can say that a quality-made 400W PSU would be plenty for any system like his that has one video card in it. If he were to overclock his 3770K and also upgrade to a single HD 7970, then I would recommend a quality-made 450W power supply, but that's still not the minimum. The idea is to stay in the sweet spot for the sake of efficiency.
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20 Mar 2013   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
The PSU is major overkill. This system could be easily powered by a quality-made 400W power supply, and that's not the minimum either!

I'm curious: I see that you want the 3770K. Will you be overclocking?

Finally, I recommend avoiding the Audigy SE for a modern build like yours. It won't really be much better than the onboard audio.
Okay, so I'll discard the sound card, but then again, what PSU would you recommend?:D (Specifically n-n)
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20 Mar 2013   #7

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Executable Beep View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
The PSU is major overkill. This system could be easily powered by a quality-made 400W power supply, and that's not the minimum either!

I'm curious: I see that you want the 3770K. Will you be overclocking?

Finally, I recommend avoiding the Audigy SE for a modern build like yours. It won't really be much better than the onboard audio.
Okay, so I'll discard the sound card, but then again, what PSU would you recommend? (Specifically n-n)
That depends: will you ever have more than one video card? Are you open to having a better video card such as the HD 7970? I mean, it depends on what your final build will come out to be and what your future plans are - especially if they are definite plans.
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20 Mar 2013   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Executable Beep View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
The PSU is major overkill. This system could be easily powered by a quality-made 400W power supply, and that's not the minimum either!

I'm curious: I see that you want the 3770K. Will you be overclocking?

Finally, I recommend avoiding the Audigy SE for a modern build like yours. It won't really be much better than the onboard audio.
Okay, so I'll discard the sound card, but then again, what PSU would you recommend?:D (Specifically n-n)
That depends: will you ever have more than one video card? Are you open to having a better video card such as the HD 7970? I mean, it depends on what your final build will come out to be and what your future plans are - especially if they are definite plans.
Nah, this would be pretty much the 'definite' build, id rather do a completely new one than add stuff to it, and no, i wont overclock it in any matter because I really dont know howxD

For now, I want to have 'just enough' to power the PC, maybe a little bit more but thats it, because I have 1500 USD to spend on it and im almost reaching my limits cx
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20 Mar 2013   #9

Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BEEFSTIX View Post
Looks like a really good rig.

Also I don't think the PSU is too overkill, it's nice to have room to expand. I just had to buy a 600W because I tried to go small the first time.
Though Sound Cards on the other hand, they're kinda unecessary unless you're a true audiophile
I can't find a review of the GTX 660 Ti that I like, however the GTX 670 has a very similar power draw. So, here's a review of the GTX 670:

GeForce GTX 670 2 and 3-way SLI review - Power Consumption

With one GTX 670 under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 279W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling during this test, so I have to add 77W for the 3770K under full load (at stock). That makes the PSU pulling 356W from the wall outlet. So if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 356W from the wall outlet, then that means the system is only pulling 303W from the PSU. However, this is an unrealistically high power draw because I'm saying that both the 670 and the 3770K are under full load at the same time in Guru3D's power-hungry system. The actual gaming power draw will be closer to about 250 to 275W at the most. Not only that, but I'm talking about the GTX 670 here when he's looking at the GTX 660 Ti.

So yeah, this means that even a quality-made 350W power supply is enough because the maximum power draw will only be reached when playing the most intense and demanding video games. This will result in the maximum efficiency for the PSU because again, the maximum power draw will only ever get up to 250-275W.

For future upgrades, well each new generation of GPUs and CPUs requires less power than the previous, so it's not really enough of a concern which is why I can say that a quality-made 400W PSU would be plenty for any system like his that has one video card in it. If he were to overclock his 3770K and also upgrade to a single HD 7970, then I would recommend a quality-made 450W power supply, but that's still not the minimum. The idea is to stay in the sweet spot for the sake of efficiency.

Ok that makes sense I guess. I just lean towards the cautious side with PSUs.
When I was doing my calculations for my PSU I did it under the assumption that the CPU/GPU would max out their possible power consumption and that I might add an additional fan and It brought me to around the same estimate (450W would be in the Safe/recommended zone)
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20 Mar 2013   #10

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Executable Beep View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Executable Beep View Post

Okay, so I'll discard the sound card, but then again, what PSU would you recommend? (Specifically n-n)
That depends: will you ever have more than one video card? Are you open to having a better video card such as the HD 7970? I mean, it depends on what your final build will come out to be and what your future plans are - especially if they are definite plans.
Nah, this would be pretty much the 'definite' build, id rather do a completely new one than add stuff to it, and no, i wont overclock it in any matter because I really dont know howxD

For now, I want to have 'just enough' to power the PC, maybe a little bit more but thats it, because I have 1500 USD to spend on it and im almost reaching my limits cx
Since you're not going to overclock, you can spend less money by getting the 3770 (the one without the 'K'). Also, you don't need to go with a Z77 platform because Z77 is geared more towards overclocking and they generally just cost more money. An example chipset that you could go with is H77.

Actually, regarding the CPU, you could be fine with the 3570 (the one without the 'K') unless you know you will need the HyperThreading that the 3770 offers.

I see that you're in Mexico. Are there any online stores that you'll be ordering from? If so, then can you link me to them? I want to try picking out some PSUs and maybe a motherboard (I'm not really confident on which motherboards can be recommended and which ones shouldn't be, but I understand the chipsets).
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