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Windows 7: So what's the word on upgrading to Haswell???

12 Jun 2013   #41
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

The i7-3930K is a true 6-core 12-thread CPU.......IF you need that much horsepower, I'd go with that and build me a good Socket 2011 rig.


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12 Jun 2013   #42
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Yeah that's the CPU I'm going after. I just need to at least look at Haswell before making the final choice, even though I have till Aug/Sept.

BTW you might check out the first post of this thread where I listed the proposed system. It is a Socket 2011 rig
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12 Jun 2013   #43
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Well, you were going back and forth on socket 2011 and Haswell, but they are definitely two different types of platforms. Haswell, or any mainstream platform is more than enough for 90% of people and Socket 2011 is for the group of people who need the extra features such as people who do video/photo editing or run scientific programs.
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13 Jun 2013   #44
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I read the review and several, but not all of the discussion. I agree with him on most things from everything I have heard. pretty much the reason I haven't upgraded, there's very little advantage in doing so. This is the first time in quite a while I haven't gone with the new CPU (Sandy-E excluded). But, I agree that if I were going to build a new rig today, it would be the 3930K. I've said for a while that Haswell was really Intel going after AMD in the laptop market because they think they are way ahead in the desktop market. The only real question I have about that is, if that's true the heat issue does not make sense. From what I've read, the heat issue is accross the board with Haswell. Not good for laptops. I know the CPU's are different, but the arcitecture is the same. Personally, I see no advantage to upgrading from my Ivy to Haswell. I think he was wrong about Ivy not overclocking as high as Sandy, but the heat issue is true. But, the truth is that Haswell has not impressed me at all. Personally I would go with sandy E or wait to see what Ivy E is like. there was a significant increase in performance between Sandy and Ivy, contrary to popular opinions. Benchmarks I have say 13.8% which may not sound like much, but do the math. Ivy at 4.5 is the same as Sandy at 5.1, which is significant to me. sandy E was a significant increase over sandy also. It is a very strong CPU. If Haswell E makes a similar increase over The Haswell desktop, it may be fun to wait for. But, I wouldn't go with what has been released so far. The review you linked to sounds much like I have heard from everyone, and I agree with his response to you. Just my .02 cents.
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13 Jun 2013   #45
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Thanks Steve,

It's been a while since I've been in the market and looked at CPU's or any other "performance" hardware.

Anyway I asked your opinion because I've seen you here a lot so I know you, and others, are pretty up to date on this stuff. The last time I looked at CPU's, even GPU's, was near the end of the first gen i7-900 CPU's

As for overclocking, I know I won't be doing that as heavily as I used to so overclocking is not much of an important issue at this time. I just want to get a high performance system for gaming, photo editing/processing, and somewhere down the line, some music mixing.

Anyway thanks for looking, your opinion is well valued

@ kbrady1979, if you look through this thread I started, I said I wanted a X79 system, but wanted to know if I should consider Haswell. Seems X79 may be the way to go.

BTW the Z-87 boards are quite appealing though.
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13 Jun 2013   #46
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Thanks Sygnus. The only real sad part about Haswell is there are some very good improvements in the chipsets. The boards offer some good options.
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13 Jun 2013   #47
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Over on Overclock.net, a lot of them are already delidding the Haswells, shaving as much as 18C from the CPU temps.

Again, I'm glad I decided to go with the P9X79 WS board instead of waiting for Haswell. While the ASUS Z87 Deluxe/Dual was tempting, I would have had trouble keeping the temps down and wouldn't have really gained anything overall. The extra PCIe slot I would have gained would have been offset by the loss of a couple of SATA ports; Wi-Fi (which I may not need someday if I go ethernet to a router) and Bluetooth (which I don't see needing anytime soon, if ever) can come from adapters so no gain there either. It's going to be a long time before I would ever need Thunderbolt, again if ever. Having the onboard video in addition to a GPU card would have been nice, though.
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13 Jun 2013   #48
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

I just wanted you to realize there was a fundamental difference between those two platforms. The Haswell platform is "mainstream" and works well for normal tasks, and the Sandy Bridge-Extreme is Intel's extreme line for more demanding tasks. If you need the horsepower, there is no substitute for the X79 platform. I really would wait and see what Ivy Bridge-Extreme has to offer before I made a decision though. After all, Sandy Bridge-Extreme will still be available if IB-E doesn't suit you.
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13 Jun 2013   #49
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

You make some good points; Which is why I posted the question in the first place
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13 Jun 2013   #50
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

I was on the fence with my build as to whether or not to go with an X79 platform. I decided I didn't need the extra features and computing power the X79 platform has to offer, so I went with the Z77 platform. It would have been fun to build a balls out X79 rig though
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