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Windows 7: So what's the word on upgrading to Haswell???

14 Jun 2013   #81
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 
Thanks...

OK, if I seem confused or indecisive as to which way to goÖ. I am. Though I initially put a Sandy Bridge system together, I am now rethinking that decision.

One - I donít want to be two generations behind, which is where the Sandy Bridge is sitting now that Haswell is out.

Two - As some have pointed out, there are new chips coming out later this year, specifically Ivy-E. That said, considering I wasnít planning on purchasing my main components till around September anyway, I would be crazy not to consider the Ivy-E chips. Thus the questions on Ivy and the MBís.

Three - Though I'll probably overclock whichever system I get, it isn't the be-all, end-all factor in my decision. Simple put, I won't be going for those uber OC speeds.

Four - As Iíve said repeatedly, it will be few months down the road before actually start purchasing the main components Ė MB, CPU, RAM. This obviously gives me time to see whatís coming down the road.

Five - I have repeatedly stated that Iíve been out of the game for some time so I donít know whatís what, and how they compare to each other; thus the sometimes contradictory statements or confusing questions.

Six - I have no shame in admitting I donít know everything, and if need be, Iíll ask questions, as well as do research.

Some are taking my questions/indecisiveness personal when Iím simply trying to gain info from the more knowledgeable users here about the current tech out.

With that I thank those participating in this thread and putting up with my questions/indecisiveness.

Thanks,

Peace


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14 Jun 2013   #82
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
OK, if I seem confused or indecisive as to which way to go…. I am. Though I initially put a Sandy Bridge system together, I am now rethinking that decision.

One - I don’t want to be two generations behind, which is where the Sandy Bridge is sitting now that Haswell is out.

Two - As some have pointed out, there are new chips coming out later this year, specifically Ivy-E. That said, considering I wasn’t planning on purchasing my main components till around September anyway, I would be crazy not to consider the Ivy-E chips. Thus the questions on Ivy and the MB’s.

Three - Though I'll probably overclock whichever system I get, it isn't the be-all, end-all factor in my decision. Simple put, I won't be going for those uber OC speeds.

Four - As I’ve said repeatedly, it will be few months down the road before actually start purchasing the main components – MB, CPU, RAM. This obviously gives me time to see what’s coming down the road.

Five - I have repeatedly stated that I’ve been out of the game for some time so I don’t know what’s what, and how they compare to each other; thus the sometimes contradictory statements or confusing questions.

Six - I have no shame in admitting I don’t know everything, and if need be, I’ll ask questions, as well as do research.

Some are taking my questions/indecisiveness personal when I’m simply trying to gain info from the more knowledgeable users here about the current tech out.

With that I thank those participating in this thread and putting up with my questions/indecisiveness.

Thanks,

Peace
Sounds like you have a sound game plan in place. If you want a high end system and you are in no hurry, then waiting for Ivy Bridge-E may be worthwhile. Even if you wind up deciding on Sandy Bridge-E (still better than Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, or Haswell in many ways), you will at least have been able to decide between the four choices. There may even be better X-79 MOBOs out by then (or Ivy Bridge-E may use a different socket than LGA 2011).

Btw, just because something is newer doesn't always mean it's better. Look at Vista and Win 8, for example. Just because Sandy Bridge-E is older doesn't mean it is any good anymore. It can run circles around the newer ones.
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14 Jun 2013   #83
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Personally, I think this is an excellent thread that many others can benefit from. I have enjoyed the discussion. I consider myself to be pretty much 'up' on the latest hardware and I have learned things from this thread. Sygnus, you are doing the right thing. You can learn much more from the people who use these rigs than you will ever learn from reading specs. From experience I have learned that whatever you chose is a trade off. It is just a decision you have to make depending on what you do with your rig. If you choose sandy -E, even though is it 2 generations down now, you are getting probably the strongest CPU available right now. But, you are also giving up a few things you could get with a Z77 or Haswell rig. It just depends on are you really going to need/use those features. I have a Z77 rig and have a thunderbolt capability and an add on wi fi and blue tooth capability which you won't have with sandy E. How important is that to you? I suspect there are few people who use/need/ever intend to use Thunderbolt. I don't use Bluetooth, but may in the future. Those are just the things you have to look at.

I think most of us here think, when you say a sandy Bridge rig, you are talking about a 2600K, although technically correct, sandy bridge and sandy Bridge-E are worlds apart. they are not in the same league. I kind of know what you mean when you say Sandy Bridge, but it can confuse some.

Don't worry about asking questions. That's what this forum is for. This is an excellent thread, I think and could provide a lot of info to others considering building a rig. keep asking, but my recommendation to you with what you intend to do with the rig, is Sandy-E right now. When it comes to graphics renderind and coding, there is no other CPU commercially available that will match it, unless a very high dollar Xeon would. But, I don't know about the Xeon CPU's. But, I suspect they would not be very good at gaming. keep on asking, I know it is a big decision and you want to make the right one. I don't blame you a bit.

ONE MORE THING: With what you want to do with your computer, it may be easier for you to narrow your choices down to 2 until Ivy E comes out. I would suggest you narrow your choices to the 2011 rig you started this thread wanting and Ivy bridge. Haswell is not an improvement over Ivy, in my opinion. With your graphics work, and I believe you do a lot of it, you started out with the correct set up.
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14 Jun 2013   #84
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Keep the questions and answers coming.
Information is a great thing to have before buying.
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14 Jun 2013   #85
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Keep the questions and answers coming.
Information is a great thing to have before buying.
It's kind of fun too.
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14 Jun 2013   #86
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Sure is.
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14 Jun 2013   #87
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Not much real info here but it brings some interesting issues up.

Intel's Ivy Bridge-E set for Q3 2013, Shows Leaked Slide
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14 Jun 2013   #88
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I called my local Intel Dealer. He has a Haswell in the business running 24/7 and one at home.
I asked him to run Real Temp on both and let me know what kind of temps he gets.
Hopefully he doesn't forget.
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14 Jun 2013   #89
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I called my local Intel Dealer. He has a Haswell in the business running 24/7 and one at home.
I asked him to run Real Temp on both and let me know what kind of temps he gets.
Hopefully he doesn't forget.
ask him to run real temp and prime95. I'd really like to know the stress temps as well as how it handles a normal stressful activity such as gaming or some video encoding or something fairly stressful that we would normally do.
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14 Jun 2013   #90
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I will ask but this guy most likely will not run prime 95.
He is one of those kinds of that doesn't do serious testing and he surly won't install any cooler that didn't come with the cpu.
I shall give him another call.

Update; he is out for the rest of the day. Essenbe if you could PM me tomorrow to make sure I call again.
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