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And, just to muddy the waters a little, this will be Interesting to see if it is worthwhile.
AMD Wins Race to 5GHz with FX-9000 Series Processor | Maximum PC
So what's the word on upgrading to Haswell???
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For X79, I'm partial to either the ASUS Z9PE-D8-WS, ASUS P9X79-WS or ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
The Sabertooth X79 and P9X79 Pro are a tad more $ friendly. (Yeah they're Asus, but you shouldn't let old model scars put you off.)
The Gigabyte GA-X79S-UP5 and ASRock X79 Extreme9 also look good.
Either way, the board will do the job :)
Socket 1150 and the 4770K are pretty meh tbh.
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I read up on this Steve and I'd rather wait for Steamroller same socket better IPC
These rehashed Vishera are going to put out some serious voltage the TDP for these chips are 220w
I thought we were supposed to be going forward with lower power consumption but they went backward also you need a new board same socket to use this chip because automatic is already 1.5 V-core
I already broke 5 ghz it was fun but I can live with out it all this is now is just Bragging rights
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For the record, I never deal with customer service/tech support through e-mail unless there is absolutely no choice... as in there is absolutely no phone number to be had - Steam Support. In fact I go out of my way to find a phone number because I HATE dealing with anyone through e-mail.
BTW I now also look to see if a company I'm about to purchase from has phone support. If not, I'm probably not dealing with them.
Anyway my personal experience with Asus customer service isn't good. That even if they make good MB's, I'll be looking elsewhere first. If it comes down that I get the Asus MB, I do like their features, it will be with great apprehension about their CS
For me, AMD is not choice. I've never used an AMD processor, nor do I plan to. Same with NVidia, never used one of their cards. I tend to stay brand loyal at times - Intel CPU's, AMD/ATI GPU's, Western Digital Hard Drives, Antec Power Supplies, Corsair RAM, and Creative Soundcards. Been with these companies for a very long time and never had a problem.
That's me. Your mileage may vary :)
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Posts : 21,004 Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10New #65
Yep I saw that too LF and I couldn't help noticing the pricing again in sygnus's post from Amazon and I have no clue as to how one judges games but those figures for FPS being that close does that mean good or bad?. Am having some serious rethinking about the Haswell if only for pricing.
Personally I think the race for speed and lower heat etc etc is just making it very hard to decide what to do as one can imagine there is already probably three more generations of core's in the making. I mean where does one stop?
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John, Those FPS on Amazon is rather insignificant. In my opinion, Haswell is going to cost you a new board and CPU for about a 3% gain in efficiency, is going to run hotter than Ivy Bridge, and unless you invest in some very high dollar cooling, won't overclock as well as Ivy. It will overclock as well as Ivy, from everything I've read, but the heat will stop you. personally, I see little advantage in upgrading to Haswell, unless Intel fixes a few things, which they won't. When you asked the question on OCN, the answers about the 1155 socket being a dead socket is true. But, Intel being Intel, when they release a new CPU, there's little doubt in my mind that they will release a new board to go with it. I will keep what I have until they come out with something worth upgrading to.
As far as where the quest ends, that depends a lot on you. Most people build a rig they are happy with and use it until it won't do what they need it to do or want more features that come with a new chipset or their hardware wears out. Then there are enthusiasts like me, and most of the people on OCN. We upgrade because we have a serious illness. If it will go faster and overclock higher, I want it.
Never mind that I don't need it or use it, I just want it. It's an addiction. A real sickness that you really don't want to have. Personally, I'm proud of myself that I have resisted the temptation of Haswell. I'm very happy that it is not measurably better than what I have, and hope no one finds the secret that makes it much better than Ivy Bridge.
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I've went on record as saying I won't upgrade to Haswell for multiple reasons. I had a goal in mind when I built this system....it was to last me until some NEW hardware standard came out, and I believe it will. If someone has something older than SB and is looking to build a new rig, I probably would go with Haswell......baring that, I would wait until new standards came out to really make it worth your while. I would never recommend anybody with a good SB/IB system to upgrade to Haswell.
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Ok another question....
Ivy or Sandy?
This may sound like a dumb question but I haven't looked at CPU's or MB's since I put my i7-950 together
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Sygnus, I think you have pretty much decided on Sandy-E, which is an excellent choice. You probably need it too with your graphics work. I think you'll be amazed at what it will do. If Ivy-E comes out before you build, see what the reviews say about it and make that decision then. As far as just a 3770K or a 2600K, I would go with the Ivy. I have both and the Ivy is stronger and tougher, in my opinion. All of the talk that it won't overclock as high is BS. But, it will get hotter if you are running stress tests, but in normal operation, there is no difference. Plus, Ivy with the Z77 has a few chipset advantages such as USB 3.0 which is part of the chipset and PCIe 3.0, which may not make a big difference right now, but may in another year. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
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