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Another vote for Ivy
Sygnus, I know you do a lot of graphics work. How much, I don't know. But, the people who do a lot of the heavy duty graphics work claim that Sandy-E will pay for itself rather quickly. From some of the comments I've heard from the heavy graphics people is that sandy-E will do it in extremely time faster than the 2600K or 3770K. And, the CPU you chose will overclock well too, if you need to.
I think he is still going to go socket 2011, I'm guessing his SB vs IB question was just academic.
I agree, Kelly. I just think if he does a lot of graphics work he should go 2011. That's what it's made for.
Wait... I've just looked a few X79 boards with PCIe 3.0 and native USB 3.0 so what am I missing?
Also, though I may do some slight overclocking, it isn't really the make or break deal for me. Which is also another reason I backed down from the ASUS Rampage IV Extreme.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong but from what I gather... the real brute of the CPU's and power users are the Sandy Bridge-E's on a X79 boards?
And one other question: are the Z77 (Ivy Bridge) motherboards better than the X79 motherboards.
I'm doing some research but I'd like to get further feedback.
Thanks.
Last edited by sygnus21; 14 Jun 2013 at 00:21. Reason: Meant Z77 (Ivy bridge MB)
No, it wasn't.
Since I haven't been keeping up with the tech, I'd like to get as much information as possible before I make a final decision.
To be honest I picked the Sandy Bridge chip out of blindness. I now need some light shined on the subject. The fact that a few here think I made the right choice is good, but I'd like to get a better feel for what's out there, and what I'm passing up before making the final decision.
I normally do my research in private, but I'm asking you guys for opinions to fill in what I missed by not keeping up on the subject. In short, my knowledge on this matter is limited right now.
Thanks.
That is what I was going by when I said you had already decided on Sandy Bridge-Extreme. I'm going to bow out of this as I'm just becoming confused.@ kbrady1979, if you look through this thread I started, I said I wanted a X79 system, but wanted to know if I should consider Haswell. Seems X79 may be the way to go.
I'm not sure you are missing anything. I've just looked at some and I believe I was wrong about the PCIe 3.0, it seems they do have that. But, I think I was right about the native USB3.0. A lot of boards come with USB 3.0 but they are add ons. From the Asus Rampage IV Extreme, they use ASMedia USB 3.0 controllers. The Z77 boards, as I understand it, were the first boards out that Intel made USB 3.0 as part of the chipset. That was what I meant by native (part of the chipset and not an add in). They come with 2 sata III ports and 4 sataII ports as part of the chipsets. To increase the number of ports, most use add ons such as asus uses ASMedia, I believe, others use marvell. The X79 boards have 40 lanes of traffic available where the Z77 boards have 24, I think. That helps a lot for multiple GPU or add on cards. I believe I am correct in saying that any add ons are never as good as features supported natively by the chipset. The Haswell chipset comes with 6 SATA III ports native to the board, which can be a big plus if you run multiple SSDs.
The 2011 boards and CPU are enterprise versions and typically have better features than the Z77 boards. Keep in mind, I don't own a 2011 board so am telling you what I 'think' I know about them. Lady Fitzgerald has one and is very up on the feature set. But, i also believe I am correct in saying that the Sandy Bridge-E CPU's are the 'beast' right now.
The Z77 boards natively have only 24 lanes (some MOBOs may use a chip to add lanes). According to JJ on a Newegg YouTube video, the Z87 boards have the same number of PCIe lanes as the Z77. The only reason I could get away with a Z77 board with fewer lanes is I wouldn't need an x8 HBA card to get the number of SATA ports I wanted (even then, I would lose two ports over what I have now). Also, the Z87 boards have on board graphics that will support up to three monitors and some even have one or two Thunderbolt ports and built in Wi-Fi and blue tooth.
As nice as the new features are, I don't really need them now that I have my present rig. I don't see Thunderbolt taking off anytime soon (if ever; unless prices for Thunderbolt peripherals come way down, I suspect it may go the way of firewire). I can get ACC Wi-Fi with USB adapters when I eventually need it (by then, they should have some decent USB 3.0 versions out; the present ones are a bit iffy). I don't need Bluetooth. Onboard graphics are nice (especially since, at least with the ASUS MOBOs, the onboard graphics can also be run with a GPU card) but wouldn't be enough to do what I want (two or three monitors and stream to a TV) so I would've needed a GPU card anyways. One good GPU card by itself should be plenty for what I want to do anyways (X79 MOBOs don't have onboard graphics). Then there is the issue of the Haswells running hot. I have enough trouble cooling my i7-3930 in the tiny case I have (upgrading to a larger case is not an option due to space concerns so please don't go there). A hotter CPU I don't need.