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21 Aug 2013   #511
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Thanks, I was curious how you got it to go into turbo mode.


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21 Aug 2013   #512
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

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Well done, Kelly. I thought you'd get there eventually.
I was beginning to wonder about it. There is something I don't have set correctly to not be able to get the same overclock with a manual voltage. With an offset, it's 1.464-1.664v idle-full load, but with a manual voltage, I can't get it to boot into windows at all. My previous OC was 4948MHz with a fixed voltage of 1.512 and nothing I did would let me go any higher. I believe I could get 5GHz with about 1.550-1.600v if it scales right.
Kelly, I don't think you have a wrong setting, I think you never gave it that much voltage. Offset will let it scale a lot higher than Manual will. When you boot into windows, it appears the CPU is in turbo mode. When you boot into Windows, you have a lot of programs and services starting that puts it i turbo until everything settles down. Next time you boot into Windows, open CPUz as soon as possible and look at the CPU frequency. For the first 45 seconds to 1 minute, you wll be at your OC frequency before it settles down to 1.6. So, I would think you have to give it that OC Frequency voltage to boot into windows in Manual mode. That's my best quess.
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21 Aug 2013   #513
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

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Well done, Kelly. I thought you'd get there eventually.
I was beginning to wonder about it. There is something I don't have set correctly to not be able to get the same overclock with a manual voltage. With an offset, it's 1.464-1.664v idle-full load, but with a manual voltage, I can't get it to boot into windows at all. My previous OC was 4948MHz with a fixed voltage of 1.512 and nothing I did would let me go any higher. I believe I could get 5GHz with about 1.550-1.600v if it scales right.
Kelly, I don't think you have a wrong setting, I think you never gave it that much voltage. Offset will let it scale a lot higher than Manual will. When you boot into windows, it appears the CPU is in turbo mode. When you boot into Windows, you have a lot of programs and services starting that puts it i turbo until everything settles down. Next time you boot into Windows, open CPUz as soon as possible and look at the CPU frequency. For the first 45 seconds to 1 minute, you wll be at your OC frequency before it settles down to 1.6. So, I would think you have to give it that OC Frequency voltage to boot into windows in Manual mode. That's my best quess.
Exactly what I was thinking when I was working with it and I gave it well over 1.6v and never could get it to go. Maybe I was just a little shy of what it needed. I may try it again but I'm not overly concerned about it. I got my 5 jiggahertz
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21 Aug 2013   #514
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

@ Wrend, I will have a little think about the voltage thing you mentioned today.

@Kelly, nice one mate, it took a lot of voltage to get you to 5GHz but I guess that was what was needed for your particular CPU. As Steve said you were not that high in manual mode.
I would not attempt to run IBT at that voltage, I ran it on mine at 5GHz a while back and it passed but my voltage was lower and look at the temps (this was with manual voltage).


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21 Aug 2013   #515
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

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21 Aug 2013   #516
ganjiry

Win7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Gratz Kelly! Good j ob

I'm sooo bored not being able to play
The V Formula has an 8pin and a 4pin connector for the cpu which is why i bought the Ax850 because it's advertised as having the extra 4pin. What it doesn't say though is that the extra 4pin use's the same connector on the psu as the second PCIE connector. So you can only use 1 or the other. WTF! i can't see the point n that idea at all.
When running any stress tests with the 8350 at anything over 1.47v ish it will draw way over the 300w limit of the 8pin.

Quoted by praz on the rog forum,
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At stock speeds and voltage the single 8 pin connector is fine. But once you get to the voltage and frequency you are at if you are going to hammer the system with stress test programs you need both the 8 and 4 pin connectors.
The current requirement is a result of the set frequency and applied voltage along with the utility/program that is run. The current capability of the onboard 8 pin connector or the power plane of the board at the connecter can easily be exceeded below a 5GHz frequency depending on the amount of VCORE used.
So i'm trying to find a suitable molex to 4pin adapter but it has to be one with the single molex and 16AUG. I'm really warey of using an adapter though.
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21 Aug 2013   #517
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ganjiry View Post
Gratz Kelly! Good j ob

I'm sooo bored not being able to play
The V Formula has an 8pin and a 4pin connector for the cpu which is why i bought the Ax850 because it's advertised as having the extra 4pin. What it doesn't say though is that the extra 4pin use's the same connector on the psu as the second PCIE connector. So you can only use 1 or the other. WTF! i can't see the point n that idea at all.
When running any stress tests with the 8350 at anything over 1.47v ish it will draw way over the 300w limit of the 8pin.

Quoted by Nodens on the rog forum,
Quote:
At stock speeds and voltage the single 8 pin connector is fine. But once you get to the voltage and frequency you are at if you are going to hammer the system with stress test programs you need both the 8 and 4 pin connectors.
The current requirement is a result of the set frequency and applied voltage along with the utility/program that is run. The current capability of the onboard 8 pin connector or the power plane of the board at the connecter can easily be exceeded below a 5GHz frequency depending on the amount of VCORE used.
So i'm trying to find a suitable molex to 4pin adapter but it has to be one with the single molex and 16AUG. I'm really warey of using an adapter though.
That's pretty annoying mate, so I take it you can't just buy the correct cable on it's own? Or do you not have any bits left to plug it into on the PSU?
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21 Aug 2013   #518
ganjiry

Win7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Yeah it is a tad mate, I have a solution now though but one i won't feel too comfortable doing with my history in anything electrical.
I have the right cable but as the pcie cable is using the output on the psu i have nowhere to put it. Someone who know's there sh** on the rog forums pointed out that i don't need to buy an adapter but instead mod the cable i have.
I still have free outputs on the psu for the molex/sata cable's so he's going to tell me on skype how to swap the one end off the cable and wire it correctly.
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21 Aug 2013   #519
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I have the same PSU and the same problem ganjiry. I just don't have 2 cards. But still only use the 8 pin, I left the 4 pin off. I had thought for a long time I was going to get a new card. You could always use a molex to 6 pin for one of the cards,, But, like you, That's why I bought this PSU. At least I can wait to decide what to do. I can sympathise with you. I was pretty angry when I figured it out. But, I asked Asus tech support and they said the extra 4 pin was not necessary. But, what do they know?

Paul, The PSU comes with 2 ATX 8 pin conectors (4+4 pin) and 4 8 pin pcie connectors. But they use the same connectors on the PSU and there are only enough of that type connectors to use the 2 8 pin ATX conneciors or 4 PCIE connectors, but not both.

EDIT: When you find out how to mod the cable, let me know. I just may need it.
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21 Aug 2013   #520
ganjiry

Win7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I have the same PSU and the same problem ganjiry. I just don't have 2 cards. But still only use the 8 pin, I left the 4 pin off. I had thought for a long time I was going to get a new card. You could always use a molex to 6 pin for one of the cards,, But, like you, That's why I bought this PSU. At least I can wait to decide what to do. I can sympathise with you. I was pretty angry when I figured it out. But, I asked Asus tech support and they said the extra 4 pin was not necessary. But, what do they know?

Paul, The PSU comes with 2 ATX 8 pin conectors (4+4 pin) and 4 8 pin pcie connectors. But they use the same connectors on the PSU and there are only enough of that type connectors to use the 2 8 pin ATX conneciors or 4 PCIE connectors, but not both.

EDIT: When you find out how to mod the cable, let me know. I just may need it.
Will do mate
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