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Windows 7: Haswell may not be a big deal as first thought

09 Aug 2013   #1
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 
Haswell may not be a big deal as first thought

I am watching a legit review on Haswell and I'm thinking i'll keep my current set up for a while

Watching this video these guys explains the chip throttles sucks at overclocking and also gets hotter then my AMD chip

Kind of disappointing


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09 Aug 2013   #2
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I'm not regretting not waiting for Haswell. Even though, it has enough PCI-e lanes to meet my needs now that up to ten SATA III ports are available, none of th4 boards I've looked at have them allocated in a way that's usable to me.
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09 Aug 2013   #3
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

As I said in our PM's a while back mate, the Haswells are dodgy for overclocking, you might get lucky but a large percentage were not even hitting above 4.2GHz without stupid volts and temps.
I remember seeing people getting them on another forum just after they had been released, they were not happy.

If you really want to switch to Intel and get some good overclocks then you would be better off with Ivy.
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09 Aug 2013   #4
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

You pretty much have to delid the Haswells to get truly decent overclocks without cooking the little buggers. I'm not interested in overclocking—I prefer long life over a bit more speed—but the shortage of usable PCI-e slots are what really kills it for me.
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09 Aug 2013   #5
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

This was an article I posted on here a while back - http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...haswell-heat/1


I found this bit interesting -

"One manufacturer claims that pre-release chips marked as 3.5GHz parts were tested completely stably at 4.8GHz, but of the 40-50 retail units the company has tested not a single one has managed to reach above 4.2GHz without hitting unsafe temperatures or requiring too-high levels of voltage. Another firm has stated that it has had to drop plans to offer pre-overclocked Haswell systems running at 4.5GHz - a figure, again, planned based on engineering work carried out on pre-production samples provided by Intel - to 4.3GHz in order to ensure stability. 'There is a big difference in the overclocking potential between early Haswell samples and retail,' the unnamed manufacturer claimed."
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09 Aug 2013   #6
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

I read several places where people were buying 3, 4, 5+ Haswell CPU's, testing them and maybe getting 1 out of the lot that was in the top 30% of what is expected. JJ from Asus said he had 3 or 4 and one of them could hit 4.8GHz on water safely. I think you have to be extremely lucky to get a decent overclocker, not to mention a damn good overclocker. Ivy Bridge is still a great platform and has more processing power @ stock speeds than most people will ever need.
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09 Aug 2013   #7
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
I read several places where people were buying 3, 4, 5+ Haswell CPU's, testing them and maybe getting 1 out of the lot that was in the top 30% of what is expected. JJ from Asus said he had 3 or 4 and one of them could hit 4.8GHz on water safely. I think you have to be extremely lucky to get a decent overclocker, not to mention a damn good overclocker. Ivy Bridge is still a great platform and has more processing power @ stock speeds than most people will ever need.
Madness eh Kelly, buying a load of chips to maybe get 1 that can do 4.8 lol
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09 Aug 2013   #8
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

If I hadn't already spent so much for my Sandy Bridge-e, I'd be seriously lusting for the Ivy Bridge-e coming out soon. Rumor has it that the IHS will be soldered on them, unlike the Ivys and the Haswells.
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09 Aug 2013   #9
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
If I hadn't already spent so much for my Sandy Bridge-e, I'd be seriously lusting for the Ivy Bridge-e coming out soon. Rumor has it that the IHS will be soldered on them, unlike the Ivys and the Haswells.
I read that too. I'll be interested in seeing what IB-E can do!
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09 Aug 2013   #10
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
If I hadn't already spent so much for my Sandy Bridge-e, I'd be seriously lusting for the Ivy Bridge-e coming out soon. Rumor has it that the IHS will be soldered on them, unlike the Ivys and the Haswells.
I will be a happy guy if that rumor is true Lady Fitz, I am hoping this will be my next build but of course nothing will happen if they turn out to be below expectations.
I always like to leave it a month or so after release to see what people think of them too.
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