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14 Aug 2013   #21
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

For a build like that I'd be looking at the Cooler Master Cosmos II case. It's the only one that I can think of that would offer the cooling needed for four GPUs. If you are running at 1920x1080 though you should be able to get away with three 4GB 770s I'd have thought.


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14 Aug 2013   #22
DreadStarX

Windows 8 64bit Professional
 
 

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Another thing I would say, (although it would be awesome to have some nice 2560X1440 Monitors) if you are gonna have 8 screens then I would stick with 1920X1080 otherwise it will hammer the VRAM badly.
I would love to have the option to go larger than 1920x1080. Like I stated previously, EVE can have some massive fights, and I do a lot of frapsing and upload to youtube. I've only got 2 videos up now, but look for DreadStarX on YouTube.

I would love to double my resolution or have a video card that can do that. I do occasionally attach my 42" TV to my computer when my XBOX is in use.

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256GB SSD's are the sweet spot for price/performance these days, but there is certainly nothing wrong with bigger capacities if you buy a quality SSD. You buy junk, that's when you start having problems. I'm very picky about what SSD I use, and recommend. As for the case, read reviews and watch videos on the ones that can suit your needs and you will find out everything you need to know about them, good and bad. You don't have to settle on one right now, but do your homework, find the one that you want and keep an eye on it and catch it on sale. You don't have to order all of this at one time, especially something like a case.
Like you, I am picky about what my machines run. I've had bad feed back on anything bigger than 160GB. So I'm cautious about it. I want the BEST possible performance possible. I have a 16TB NAS that I built a few weeks back, thats running RAID0 for my BluRay/TVShow/Music/Music Video Collection, so I have storage for long term holding, but I'll have a 4TB Internal HD for my storage/projects.


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Ok, so hold off on the CPU and Mobo, the Ram well I would expect the Ivy-E boards to have 8 x Ram slots like Sandy-E, so you have the option to either get 8 x 4GB or 4 x 8GB, the later will allow for expansion should you require 64GB lol.
I love G.Skill and my last 4 sets of Ram have all been G.Skill. I expect you can run with at least 2400MHz on the new Ivy-E, but again it's best waiting until the time to see the full specs of the new chipset.

What cooling do you have planned? Realistically if you want 4 x GPU's then heat is gonna be a big issue, have you considered a full custom loop to cool the beasts?

SSD, what capacity did you have in mind? The new Samsung 840 Evo's come in 1TB size and look very promising.

Paul.
Well, I was going to look at the SXCP or XSCP Cases, according to the article here on SForums, they make some very insanely good Water Cooling kits. I was going to go a full loop, and watch the cooling. I planned on overclocking it when I need too, but I'm still a novice in that section.

As for the SSD, i was going to keep it below 250GB. Because I've heard a lot of negative comments about anything above 250GB. But I've never owned one.

As Kelly says 250/256 is a good place right now, but if you can afford bigger then there is certainly no issues with the decent brands like Samsung. The new range of 840 Evo's look good, but the older 840s and 840 Pros are excellent drives.
Just depends what space you need and how quick you want to access it. Most of us have the OS on the SSD and then a regular HDD or 2 for storage etc, I only have a 128GB SSD and my Steam games come to a few 100GB so I chucked them all on a HDD, but I have the one I play the most on my SSD for quicker load times.
Well, Like I stated above, I'm picky. I want the best possible performance. I want a complete setup that'll maximize what I do.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
For a build like that I'd be looking at the Cooler Master Cosmos II case. It's the only one that I can think of that would offer the cooling needed for four GPUs. If you are running at 1920x1080 though you should be able to get away with three 4GB 770s I'd have thought.
That is one gnarly looking case Boozad. Now, if only I can find a motherboard that'd support that baby to the fullest. From the pictures, the only thing I'm worried about is the PSU. My 1300W is pretty big. I don't want to buy everything and then have to downgrade.

Looking at the 770s has me worried. The size of card, and the quantity as well, might be an issue.

Newegg.com - EVGA 04G-P4-2768-KR GeForce GTX 760 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support SC 4GB w/ EVGA ACX Cooler Video Card

I was looking at these cards, running 4. The goal is to be able to have 8 monitors, SLI them when needed, but for the most part, just have 2 monitors per card. Frankly, I've never done SLI that much, I've played with a few machines with it, but never owned one. Never had the cash flow to drop 7500$ on computer parts until now.

Anyways, keep posting and I'll mull over the information.

Someone wanna explain SLI for me?
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14 Aug 2013   #23
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

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14 Aug 2013   #24
DreadStarX

Windows 8 64bit Professional
 
 

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I'll read it when I return home on Friday. My school blocked that site because its a blog. =/


So lets say I didn't want to wait, and I had a timeline to have it built by;

What would you suggest I buy for the latest and greatest?
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14 Aug 2013   #25
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Get the Samsung 840 Pro 256GB.....one of the most reliable and fastest drives on the planet. Also.....a question, why do you have your NAS set up in RAID 0? Modern hard drives are more than fast enough to saturate 1000Mbps ethernet connections, so RAID 0, I don't believe, is doing much for you. I would vote for RAID 5 or RAID 10, or if you have a bunch of HD's, RAID 6......you need some redundancy in there.
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14 Aug 2013   #26
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Here's your case you'll want to consider and I would think (2) 480's and a 360 should do then all the blocks and crystal link and fittings.
Obsidian Series® 900D Super Tower Case - Obsidian Series - Cases
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14 Aug 2013   #27
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Some light viewing for your pleasure !

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15 Aug 2013   #28
DreadStarX

Windows 8 64bit Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Get the Samsung 840 Pro 256GB.....one of the most reliable and fastest drives on the planet. Also.....a question, why do you have your NAS set up in RAID 0? Modern hard drives are more than fast enough to saturate 1000Mbps ethernet connections, so RAID 0, I don't believe, is doing much for you. I would vote for RAID 5 or RAID 10, or if you have a bunch of HD's, RAID 6......you need some redundancy in there.
Well, my media collection consists of 4TB of movies, I have every movie in BluRay quality, and I have nearly 10TB in TV-Shows as well. So space is a necessity. Any movie that comes out, I download in a HD BluRay 1 - 3GB Copy. Also, I have no where else to store these videos if I did a RAID configuration. I contemplated RAID 5 for a long time, but that wouldn't give me the space I need. When I get home I'll take a screenshot of my drives, and I'll show you guys the capacity. The NAS is open to my friends as well, but I'll think about a RAID Configuration. I have a stable 10mbit up/down Fiber connection, so re-downloading movies isn't a huge issue, its only temporary until I can get my new job, and then I'll start buying BluRays.

As for the case, I'm down for that one or the one someone posted earlier. Both look splended, especially with dual power supplies. Though I'm not sure a standard Desktop motherboard comes with dual plugins, then again I've never tried to run dual PSUs. I always assumed you had to have the motherboard connected to the PSU for the power to work, but that was just an assumption. Thanks for that case as well, I'm beginning to drool again, I know I did last night.
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Some light viewing for your pleasure !

I'll check this out when I get home. My school blocks Regular YouTube, if it isn't educational, I can't get it.

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SLI Bridges for 4 Way are dang expensive! What happened to them sending out free bridges
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15 Aug 2013   #29
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Sounds like you have a nice collection. I have almost 4TB of TV shows archived, 95% in 720/1080p Blu Ray encodes or WEB-DL's, and have a little over 3TB of movies. I download full blu ray dumps when I can, or remuxes........and occasionally a really good encode. My movies average about 25GB each, and my TV shows average 1-1.5GB each. I will be building a NAS sometime in the future and will more than likely use RAID 5. A 1000Mbps(Gigabit LAN) has a maximum theoretical limit of 125MB/s of throughput, and even the greenest of hard drives have sequential read/write speeds of 130-150MB/s. I understand that you need the capacity though...and you already have your RAID array built. Something to think about if you build another setup and break your current array is a RAID with redundancy.
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15 Aug 2013   #30
DreadStarX

Windows 8 64bit Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Sounds like you have a nice collection. I have almost 4TB of TV shows archived, 95% in 720/1080p Blu Ray encodes or WEB-DL's, and have a little over 3TB of movies. I download full blu ray dumps when I can, or remuxes........and occasionally a really good encode. My movies average about 25GB each, and my TV shows average 1-1.5GB each. I will be building a NAS sometime in the future and will more than likely use RAID 5. A 1000Mbps(Gigabit LAN) has a maximum theoretical limit of 125MB/s of throughput, and even the greenest of hard drives have sequential read/write speeds of 130-150MB/s. I understand that you need the capacity though...and you already have your RAID array built. Something to think about if you build another setup and break your current array is a RAID with redundancy.
Yeah, I'm going to probably look into a bigger NAS, prefer more than 4 HDD Slots, if I had it my way, I'd take a 10 Drive slot, but I don't think they make those , but in reality 5 or 6 slots would be spiffy. I'm not 100% sure how raid works, my understand is;

max size / (Divided) by the Rad (0,3,5,6,10) and thats the "rough" outcome of space you'll get, and a level of redundancy.

I.e. I have 20TB of space 20 / 5 = 4TB of Space with a decent redundancy if a drive fails.
i.e.e.
R0 = 20TB
R3 = 6.5TB (Roughly)
R5 = 5TB
R6 = 3.3TB (Roughly)
R10 = 2TB

Thats how I've come to understand RAID sizes, also the # indicates the level of restorability, or so I'm told.



Edit:

On a side note, what operating systems should I run. I usually do a Dual Boot of Windows 7 / 8 with a Ubuntu setup. But I'm thinking about turning my current PC into a VMWare/Web Server setup and running Windows Server 2012 Datacenter Edition (MSDNAA Students ftw).

Any suggestions? I love Windows 8 and the Preview 8.1. I've gotten so comfortable with it. But I'm wondering about memory issues, and things of that nature. I can't find an operating system comparison tool, so I can't find out exactly how it would compare. I run 64bit only, I haven't touched 32bit since Windows 2000 was around.
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