Actually my sentiments as well only I don't like criticising to the point of sounding a bit anti if you get my drift.
Myself i am aiming at another Ivy if the prices come down out here for the boards at least and if you can get them!! Only this time I'll probably go i7 instead of i5 although it is good to work around.
If I were forced to use Haswell in any kind of high performance situation, I would only use an Asus motherboard. They get bad press for their customer service because they outsell the competition by a massive amount so of course there are going to be more people having to deal with them. There are too many complaints with Gigabyte motherboards for me to even recommend one, but if you are dead set on one get whichever one meets your needs. You already have my opinion in your other thread about what platform to use......if you are serious about editing work, the socket 2011 platform is the way to go. I will agree with you on the RAM, if you are already using close to 16GB, then get 32 so you don't have to worry with it later. With RAM, it is always better to get all you need in one kit so it's matched up.
Also, you said you aren't going to overclock, have you thought getting a non-K processor?
Actually though the Haswell chip is a questionable leap in performance but the 87 mobo's are! This has caught my eye and a tight small form factor super system is finally in our grasp! This thing does it all and mate with SSD, Great ram, Huge GPU, Aftermarket Cooling and case and it should be off the hook !
Newegg.com - ASUS MAXIMUS VI IMPACT LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard
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Let me correct myself about Haswell.....if you aren't going to overclock, they are perfectly fine. If you ever do, you will need to rethink your setup.
No; because if I choose to overclock, I want a high end chip that can go there. And as I stated, I also want a high end system.... even though it's Haswell. To be honest if Haswell had their e-chip out now, that's what I'd be getting.
And I've personal experience with Asus' customer service and it wasn't good by a long shot. And it wasn't just one call but a secession of them concerning an issue with my laptop charger.
As for Gigabyte, I can actually report that the times I called them, twice, I actually got pretty good service.
Yes, all companies can suffer bad customer service, I won't even get into Microsoft, but when the service is so bad as to makes your blood boil, yeah, you tend to shy away from their products. This is what Asus did. And looking around the net, others feel the same.
At any rate, if Asus has a board that fits my needs, I'll consider it, but not before seriously considering other vendors, thus my questions.
I agree, which it what moved me to Haswell.
That said, I know Haswell isn't the Ivy/Sandy systems, and that the X79 platform remains the top dog, but let's not act like Haswell isn't in the ball park performance wise either.
At any rate I appreciate the comments and suggestions, it does give me stuff to think about.
Thanks.
Don't plan on doing any high overclocking. If you look at my current system with my i7-950, I've got a modest over clock pushing the chip to 3.8 gig and it's been stable like that for 3 years now. I much prefer long term stability over raw flash in the pants power. That's me.
BTW I also have a Q6600 system that's got a slight over clock, and it's been running like that since 2007!
Haswell is great.......if you plan on running stock frequencies. Benchmarks show that across the board. You'll be happy with it for what you intend on doing. If you get into more advanced editing, that is where you would want an extreme series chip with more cores/threads....but we are talking doing several jobs a day for customers. I have heard horror stories about the CS at Asus, but I have heard they have gotten better recently. I know from a few people on here, if you buy from the right retailer, you don't have to deal with Asus' CS at all if you have an issue. That is if you have a problem within a certain timeframe. Some Asus boards have a 5 year warranty and if you have to use it, it should be as easy as RMA'ing it and waiting. I know Gary and Steve send motherboards back like it's their job lol, and if I'm not mistaken they primarily order from Amazon. If I were looking for a Z87 motherboard I would look at the Sabertooth(or Gryphon if you like mATX, it's the same as the Sabertooth) or the Asus Z87 WS. Both come in at less than $300 on Newegg.
Keep us updated on this new build!
Yeah I do do some heavy photo editing at times as stated here - Z87 Motherboard Suggestions?
And yeah, had I gone with the Ivy system I would have gone with a 6 core processor in the 4930K Ivy-E. Just wish Haswell had their chip out now or very soon. As it stands, it's slated for release in 4th quarter of 14 (maybe)
And I usually order my parts from Amazon, which has excellent return service, or pick them up from Microcenter, which also has a good return policy. Not worried about the return policy, but having to deal with Asus themselves on issues.
Not into micro-atx so that's out, but I do like Asus's Z87 Deluxe Dual board. It may actually come down between it and Gigabytes GA-Z87X-UD5 TH board. To be honest I'm leaning there, but I have to see what the initial reports on the board are being it's a new release. If not so good, I'll have to look at the other Gigabyte board before moving to Asus.
Don't get me wrong, I like the Asus boards; they're powerful, chock full of options, and well built, but Gigabyte's boards are no slouch either, and are also competitive, and well built. They've also set some overclocking records of their own - GIGABYTE Shatters AMD ?Trinity? APU Speed Record, and this...
Granted this is overclocking taken to the extreme but my point is Gigabyte is no slouch when it comes to overclocking either.
BUT... as I said, I'm looking for other Z87 options as well, and not just Asus or Gigabyte.
Thanks
We seem to have a bit of confusion here. There are two kinds of IvyBridge and SandyBridge CPUs; the regular line and the enthusiast line. The enthusiast lines usually run from a different socket (such as LGA 2011 vs. LGA1155, for example). The IvyBridge-e, and even the SandyBridge-e, CPUs still run circles around the Haswells performance and capacity wise although the newer Haswell boards are more feature rich (new X79 boards, such as the Asus X79 Deluxe are starting to close that gap).
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