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Windows 7: New PC build- are these components good?

12 Nov 2013   #1
Tomtom111

Windows 7 Professional SP1 x64
 
 
New PC build- are these components good?

Hi everyone,

I'm building my own PC for the first time and I wanted some guidance on the parts that I have selected. I'm going to be using it for heavy web browsing and casual gaming (which includes hosting a MC server from time to time) mainly.

I still have to decide on a case, but I'm thinking either the Fractal Design Core 1000 or Fractal Design Define Mini (might need some help on that one as well) Core 1000: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-Desi...ords=core+1000 Define Mini: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-Desi...dp/B004ZH18VE/. I may add a CD/DVD drive, but its unlikely. Also, I'm considering getting more fans that which ever case I get comes with to make sure everything is cool enough. I'm not going to have an SSD at first but I might add one later on. Also, I found this site that compares the two mobo's I've found: Temporary comparison table | Hardware.Info United Kingdom

Bearing in mind that I'm quite a tight budget of around 400 (~$630 USD at the current exchange rates) so I won't be able to spend a huge amount and get the latest and greatest, would you say that this is a decent build and could you suggest any improvements that wouldn't increase the price too far beyond 400. Oh, and the budget excludes an OS and monitor.

Thanks in advance.
Tom

Oh, and I want to stick with AMD, as Intel CPU's are kinda out of my budget


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12 Nov 2013   #2
johnsmith45jock

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Hey Tomtom,

Here's a link for you to check out some of the many custom builds.

You can get an idea of what goes together.

http://www.newegg.com/DIY-PC-Combos/...ionStore/ID-33

John
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12 Nov 2013   #3
madcratebuilder

Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
 
 

That's a good choice of parts. The two mobo's have the same chjpset and should be very much the same in performance, the bundled software is the biggest difference. I would prefer asus, but nothing wrong with asrock.

What are you doing for a power supply?
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12 Nov 2013   #4
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I would add a SSD for the OS. a 120GB model would be a good choice. They sell for around $100 or around 70 quid.
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12 Nov 2013   #5
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Tomtom111,
Whatever case you go with consider the space behind the motherboard as your PSU isn't modular so you'll be hiding lots of cable there, take it from me as I built a system with that very PSU. I also agree with whs you should pull the trigger for a SSD believe me it's the single most impressive upgrade I've made to my rigs and the joy of loading the OS and software much less all the updates is a joy to watch as it must take at least half the time much less boot, software loading and shut down times.
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12 Nov 2013   #6
LittleJay

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1
 
 

I totally agree in regard to an SSD. It is the single best improvement I have ever made to any of my computers.
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12 Nov 2013   #7
Tomtom111

Windows 7 Professional SP1 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madcratebuilder View Post
That's a good choice of parts. The two mobo's have the same chjpset and should be very much the same in performance, the bundled software is the biggest difference. I would prefer asus, but nothing wrong with asrock.

What are you doing for a power supply?
The ASRock mobo has SATA6, whereas the ASUS only has SATA3, which limits me speed wise if I get an SSD. As for the PSU, I've already got it, a Corsair CX500

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I would add a SSD for the OS. a 120GB model would be a good choice. They sell for around $100 or around 70 quid.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
Tomtom111,
Whatever case you go with consider the space behind the motherboard as your PSU isn't modular so you'll be hiding lots of cable there, take it from me as I built a system with that very PSU. I also agree with whs you should pull the trigger for a SSD believe me it's the single most impressive upgrade I've made to my rigs and the joy of loading the OS and software much less all the updates is a joy to watch as it must take at least half the time much less boot, software loading and shut down times.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LittleJay View Post
I totally agree in regard to an SSD. It is the single best improvement I have ever made to any of my computers.
My problem is that I install and reinstall operating systems often (generally not my main OS (W7), but others like Linux) and I've read that SSD's have limited read/write numbers, so obviously writing a lot of data to one would wear it out quickly. Also the Fractal Core 1000 can hold 3 drives, but as far as I can tell my GPU is long enough to go beyond the 2nd and 3rd drive mounts, so as a result I'll only be able to have one in that case. It isn't an issue in the other case though.

Thanks for you're replies
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12 Nov 2013   #8
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Don't worry about the reliability of SSDs. They are more reliable than spinning disks. Of my 7 SSDs, the oldest is from 2007 and still going strong. And SSDs use hardly any power at all - less than 1W. You can check out the specifications of a few here: Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, SSDs, Internal SSDs, 91GB - 128GB
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12 Nov 2013   #9
Tomtom111

Windows 7 Professional SP1 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Don't worry about the reliability of SSDs. They are more reliable than spinning disks. Of my 7 SSDs, the oldest is from 2007 and still going strong. And SSDs use hardly any power at all - less than 1W. You can check out the specifications of a few here: Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, SSDs, Internal SSDs, 91GB - 128GB
OK, well as I said in the first post, it's something I may add later on, be I'll stick to a HDD. Havign said that, what about a SSHD? They seem to be the best of both worlds to me, so is there anything wrong with it?

Thanks
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12 Nov 2013   #10
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Forget the SSHDs. They look good on paper but all the real life feedback I have ever seen was negative.

I guess they would be OK if you used it for data storage where you manipulate large amounts of contiguously stored data each time. Then the access time would not be such a big factor. But the OS manipulates only very small 4K random blocks and accresses the disk very frequently. For that environment, the access time has a big impact.

If you are waiting with the SSD for later because of budget reasons, I can understand. But if you are able to afford a SSD now, I would not wait. A system with a SSD is a completely different world.
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