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Windows 7: Question about Best HDD Storage Device


18 Nov 2013   #11
whs
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I would not harp too much on the quality aspects. Most major companies get their drives from the same shops in Thailand. So there is really no distinction.

I personally prefer to work with an external open enclosure like thios one.

Aluratek External 2.5" & 3.5" Black SuperSpeed USB 3.0 SATA Hard Drive Docking Station Enclosure AUDDU200F - Newegg.com

That allows me to work with bare bone HDDs (are cheaper) in 2.5" and 3.5" size. And I can easily swap the disks. Most of my 2.5" disks are recovered from my laptops when I replaced the HDDs with SSDs.

I would rather buy a few smaller HDDs like this one which costs $60 with Promo Code: EMCYTZT4867. That spreads the risk of failure over 1 big HDD.


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18 Nov 2013   #12

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I would not harp too much on the quality aspects. Most major companies get their drives from the same shops in Thailand. So there is really no distinction...
I seen quite a few posts on forums that say the spinners they put in external drives are lower quality. Just because products have the same source doesn't necessarily mean they will be built with the same quality. WD Blacks are better than the Greens, for example. That said, I did have a 120GB WD external drive I used off and on for seven or eight years without a problem and I retired it mostly because it was too small to be of much use to me, was a pain to use because of the PSU, and it was starting to make funny noises.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
...I personally prefer to work with an external enclosure like thios one.

Aluratek External 2.5" & 3.5" Black SuperSpeed USB 3.0 SATA Hard Drive Docking Station Enclosure AUDDU200F - Newegg.com

That allows me to work with bare bone HDDs (are cheaper) in 2.5" and 3.5" size. And I can easily swap the disks...
I used to the Kingwin I linked earlier. I bought it to use temporarily until I got my present rig built which has built-in swap bays:



They are so much more convenient that having to horse around with an external dock. I do have a couple of cute little USB powered 2.5" dock I use with my notebook. The Kingwin dock does have an e-SATA connection and the dock worked out well for me when I was using it so I keep it for a backup.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
...I would rather buy a few smaller HDDs like this one which costs $60 with Promo Code: EMCYTZT4867. That spreads the risk of failure over 1 big HDD.
I agree that using smaller disks reduces failure risk (it also reduces the amount of time for making backups and doing restoration) but it also increases the number of drives one has to store. However, the failure risk can be mitigated with a solid backup scheme. I prefer larger ones because it reduces storage space requirements. Since removing and replacing anti-static sleeves is a hurt in the donkey and I'm a lazy old broad, I keep my backup drives in a drawer in an anti-static "egg crate" that gives me easy access to my backup drives.

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I have room for only six HDDs in my computer. I use three HDDs for each HDD in my computer. I keep two at home and one in a safe deposit box at my credit union. The "egg crate" provides enough room for all 18 potential backup HDDs plus room for some spares and my 2.5" HDDs (most of which I have retired). Needless to say, the larger the HDDs, the more room I'll have for data.


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18 Nov 2013   #13
whs
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I seen quite a few posts on forums that say the spinners they put in external drives are lower quality. Just because products have the same source doesn't necessarily mean they will be built with the same quality. WD Blacks are better than the Greens, for example. That said, I did have a 120GB WD external drive I used off and on for seven or eight years without a problem and I retired it mostly because it was too small to be of much use to me
I don't really believe that. A statistical sample of 1 is not really convincing me.
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18 Nov 2013   #14

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
The largest available drives tend to cost more than twice the cost of drives with half the capacity. Just my way of putting it. I haven't done statistical analysis or anything. But if cost is an issue you may be well served by a USB 3.0 (if the machine has USG 3.0 ports already) docking station, several 2 tb internal drives, and a plastic stack of drawers from Walmart. Just glancing at egg I saw WD 2 tb 6 Gb/s drives for around $90. These days you can probably get a USB 3.0 dock for around $20. Using external drives they make you pay through the nose for the fact it's enclosed and you just plug them in. It's just as easy to slide an internal drive into a dock. Just make sure to drain the static electricity from your body before picking up the drive.

I got the plastic stack of drawyers at Walmart for $8 I think. I forget if it was 5 or 6 drawers. Just save the anti-static bags the internal drives come in. But even if you have to buy some it's only a few dollars for all you are ever likely to need. Slide the internal drive into the anti-static bag and store in a drawer. Unless you are saving BluRay images like 50 GB a shot, even 1 TB drives will store plenty of video.
If it's going to be a huge Drive Internal then Cost shouldn't matter I assume he is spending 80 to 100 for just 128gb of space when he can cough up 160.00 for much more


Lady what I was saying is USB3.0 is still slower then Sata 6 Correct I just want to make sure we are clear

I think by most of the suggestions Internal would be a better choice he fill these other drives up in less then a month so I am assuming 3TB should suffice he doesn't want to erase them either but he does have everything backed up

This would be all Media and editing that is all he does
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18 Nov 2013   #15

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
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I seen quite a few posts on forums that say the spinners they put in external drives are lower quality. Just because products have the same source doesn't necessarily mean they will be built with the same quality. WD Blacks are better than the Greens, for example. That said, I did have a 120GB WD external drive I used off and on for seven or eight years without a problem and I retired it mostly because it was too small to be of much use to me
I don't really believe that. A statistical sample of 1 is not really convincing me.

This is what I was told as well even though it's a spinner it was proclaimed lot of them break down and become garbage but I figure that was with abuse I have had the same 500gb Barracuda for at least 5 years still going strong
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18 Nov 2013   #16
whs
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I have at least 20 spinners and only 1 broke down in years - that was a Seagate external drive.
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18 Nov 2013   #17

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18 Nov 2013   #18

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I have at least 20 spinners and only 1 broke down in years - that was a Seagate external drive.


I actually like Seagate too I have a couple of there drives
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18 Nov 2013   #19

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
...Lady what I was saying is USB3.0 is still slower then Sata 6 Correct I just want to make sure we are clear...
In theory, Superspeed USB 3.0 speed can be as high as 5 Gbps but, usually, it's slower than that. SATA 3.0 is 6 Gbps. Not all machines have USB 3.0 and that's where e-SATA usually shines. Cards that add USB 3.0 usually are only PCIe x1 and the more USB sockets are in use (I've seen as many as seven on a card), the slower the speed on each port in use will be. I have seen only one USB 3.0 card that used PCIe x4. Generally speaking, SATA 3.0 will be faster than USB 3.0.
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18 Nov 2013   #20
whs
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LF is right. I happen to have USB3 and eSata ports on this system. I made the exact same Macrium images with both ports to exactly the same disk. The eSata port was faster than the USB3 port although the specifications would suggest otherwise. There must be a lot of overhead with USB3.
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