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Windows 7: EVGA - What would you pay for PCIE cables?

20 Mar 2014   #41
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by badger906 View Post
id never pay for something I could make myself. bit of heat shrink and some sleeving.. could make it any colour in the world for an afternoons work
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21 Mar 2014   #42
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

My card is the same way. It requires 2 8 pin connectors. I had trouble finding extensions with 8 pins on the GPU end, so I just used the 6+2 pin cables from the PSU. Paul was right about Frozen CPU. I buy most of my water cooling stuff from them. I won't tell how many hundreds of dollars I have spent with them, but they have always dispatched it the same day I ordered it and it has always been exactly what I ordered. They are a good place to buy from. A whole set of sleeved cables for the PSU from Corsair costs $100. I bought a set for an AX850, which I no longer have, but still have the cables. Just something else to take up space and I'll never use them. So, That is Corsair's price for a full set of sleeved cables. Just something to compare to. I'm sure EVGA would look at that too. I have used NZXT extension cables and bought a complete set of them for one build. I bought the FP cable set, 24 pin, 8 pin EPS and 2 PCIe extensions. As I recall, that cost me about $60. I've considered looking into getting a custom sleeved set, but I imagine that would be expensive. The NZXT ones cost around $10-12 each, but only come with 6 pin connections, at least as I've seen. So, I would expect if EVGA were to make some extensions, around that price range is where they should be. And, yes, I would pay that for them. It's too time consuming for me to sleeve them myself and I would prefer to buy them. And as was discussed earlier, if the card calls for 2 8 Pin connections, I'd never try to run it off of 6 pin connections. The manufacturer made it that way for a reason, I figure.
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21 Mar 2014   #43
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

I've actually been thinking about investing in the tools and resources to build my own cables but the initial cost far exceeded what I needed at the time. In this instance it was simply cheaper to buy a set of cables than build them.

However, If I were constantly building systems, it would be far cheaper the build my own cables than purchase them. In the end it just depends on what you need and do in determining which way to go.

And yeah, if you have an 8-pin GPU and need extensions, I think those Akassa's would be perfect, as they won't leave you with any loose connections.

As for EVGA, I think they should just supply standard black cables, and for those wanting red ones, they can be purchased from EVGA for a very reasonable price to include shipping.

Thanks
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21 Mar 2014   #44
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

True 8 pin and 6 pin black extension cables without that heat shrink tubing at the ends.

Made by Silverstone, sold through Newegg.

Newegg.com - Silverstone PP07-PCIB 11.81" Sleeved Extension Power Supply Cable, 1 x 8pin to PCI-E 8pin(6+2) Connector

Newegg.com - Silverstone PP07-IDE6B 11.81" Sleeved Extension Power Supply Cable, 1 x 6pin to PCI-E 6pin Connector

Gelid Solutions make a great looking cable, I have the 6 pin, 24 pin and 8 pin motherboard in blue, they don`t make/sell an 8 pin pci cable, pretty stupid. I`ve asked them many times why not

http://www.gelidsolutions.com/produc...p?lid=1&cid=21
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21 Mar 2014   #45
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
True 8 pin and 6 pin black extension cables without that heat shrink tubing at the ends.

Made by Silverstone, sold through Newegg.

Newegg.com - Silverstone PP07-PCIB 11.81" Sleeved Extension Power Supply Cable, 1 x 8pin to PCI-E 8pin(6+2) Connector
You know, the funny thing is when I first started looking for a true 8-pin cable, that one never popped up; just the ones from FrozenPC. Had these popped up I would have gotten them instead as they slightly cheaper and I do like the fact that they're heat shrinkless compared to these - Akasa FLEXA V8 8-Pin PCI-E Single Braid Extension Cable - 400mm (AK-CBPW09-40BK) - FrozenCPU.com. However, they are well made.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Gelid Solutions make a great looking cable, I have the 6 pin, 24 pin and 8 pin motherboard in blue, they don`t make/sell an 8 pin pci cable, pretty stupid. I`ve asked them many times why not
Most companies including NZXT just make the 8 to 6 extensions as they're said to work just as well as the true 8 and are probably cheaper to make as they use less materials - 2 less pins and wires.
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21 Mar 2014   #46
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by badger906 View Post
id never pay for something I could make myself. bit of heat shrink and some sleeving.. could make it any colour in the world for an afternoons work
Have you made any badger? I would imagine the 24pin would be quite tricky but would love to see some pics if you have done it. Do you need any special tooling to do it? I am considering changing the colour of my cables, I see extension kits available but if it's cheaper to do it yourself and it looks good then I may consider it.
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21 Mar 2014   #47
badger906

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, & Mac OS X 10.9.2
 
 

I dont have any to show on my current rig, I gave my previous psu with sleeves on to my mate.

the tool kit youll need is something like this http://www.fleetwoodcomputers.co.uk/...xextractor.htm

the trick with the 24pin is just to do one at a time so you dont get lost.

basically what the main tool you need does is go over the pin connector and fold down the retaining wings so it pulls out the moulding. simply slide over the sleeve with some heat shrink at each end, bend open the wings, and re insert.

the other way you can do it if you want custom length cables/don't want to buy a tool kit is to simply cut the cables slide over the sleeving, then pull it back, solder the cable together, heat shrink, and then pull the sleeving over it and heat shrink to neaten.
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21 Mar 2014   #48
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by badger906 View Post
I dont have any to show on my current rig, I gave my previous psu with sleeves on to my mate.

the tool kit youll need is something like this Molex Pin Extractor

the trick with the 24pin is just to do one at a time so you dont get lost.

basically what the main tool you need does is go over the pin connector and fold down the retaining wings so it pulls out the moulding. simply slide over the sleeve with some heat shrink at each end, bend open the wings, and re insert.

the other way you can do it if you want custom length cables/don't want to buy a tool kit is to simply cut the cables slide over the sleeving, then pull it back, solder the cable together, heat shrink, and then pull the sleeving over it and heat shrink to neaten.
Thanks for the info badger, it does sound a little tricky. I could not see a price for the tools required on the link, but I think for me I would prefer just to buy a kit. It's the quick and easy option I suppose.
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21 Mar 2014   #49
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

As I said, you could make your own, but there's the initial cost of getting the required tools and supplies...



I personally don't think they're hard once you have the right tools. But, If you're just doing one custom build every so often, it's probably cheaper to just buy cables. If you do a lot of custom rigs, than you really should be looking to make your own.

I may wind up getting a kit similar that anyway just for future purposes. I could really do some clean wire jobs than. Even make my own PS ones
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21 Mar 2014   #50
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

This is the pin extractor set I use.


The top tool is the one to use for removing pins from ATX connectors, such as the 24 pin. The bottom one is for removing pins from four pin Molex connectors. The one just above the bottom one is used to remove fan connector pins. I've also used it for punching down wire into punch down type SATA power connectors. I've never used the second one so I don't know what it is used for (although it could be used to remove single fan pins). I've heard of people using bent staples to remove ATX connector pins but I was too chicken to try it.

The video sygnus21 posted is an excellent one for serious cable sleeving but one can get by with less expensive tools for occasional work. The pin extractor set I linked will do the job just fine. While the crimpers shown in the video are to die for, this one will also get the job done (this is the one I use although I paid only half that much); one just has to more care when using them.


For just resleeving an existing cable, all one needs is the appropriate pin extractor tool. Pull the pins (if the wires aren't color coded, tagging each wire first is advisable), replace the sleeve, and reinsert the pins. If shortening the cable or making one from scratch (or you damage a pin removing it), the crimper and some pins will be necessary.

It's a good idea to practice removing pins from an old cable to get the hang of it. To remove a pin from an ATX connector, push the wire as far into the connector as possible and hold it there; any pressure on the pin must be taken by the wire, not the connector itself. With the connector locking clip being held either up or down, take the top tool pictured above and, from the end of the connector body that doesn't have wires, slip the prongs on either side of the pin inside the pin hole in the connector body; wiggling the tool a bit while pushing it in helps. Pushing in on the tool (it takes a bit pressure) flattens the little lugs that keep the pin in the body against the pin and allows you to pull the pin out, using the wire it's crimped to. It took me longer to type this than it takes to remove a pin.

Here is an excellent forum for getting more information on sleeving and making custom cables.
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