Monstrosity-i7 (New Build)

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  1. Posts : 1,223
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       #71

    Lady Fitzgerald said:
    Oh, you are going to have some fun! That is an impressive pile of parts!

    I know what you mean about work keeping you crazy. I'm so glad I'm retired!
    That I definitely will hey, thank you. (: I've been itching to do this 'dream build' idea for a long time, so I can't really ignore the chance to..

    Lady Fitzgerald said:
    You mentioned earlier you weren't sure about which fans to use where. [snip]
    Yeah, I thought it was something like that. Although I must admit, I did go read up on them first just to be sure.. However, this is why I couldn't really decide which ones to use:

    Monstrosity-i7 (New Build)-innerfrontbottom2.png

    (Pic borrowed from TechPowerup, mine is in a friend's workshop..)

    Corsair say the fan spaces below those bays are for "free flowing fans". But that doesn't look too open to me... So, I plan to give them both a try and see which is happier there.
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       #72

    I am very happy to hear you finally have all the parts mate. It must be very frustrating now not to have the time to put it together but I am sure you will have a lot of fun when you finally do!

    You have some great parts and it's going to be one awesome build!
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       #73

    So.. Since my weekends these days seem to be filled with anything and everything except building my monster, I decided to start putting it together tonight instead.

    ...and I've already run into a few issues. The gorgeous Corsair fans I got are all the 3pin non-PWM type, which I just noticed will not work with my ThermalTake cooler. I just ordered two SP120 PWM versions from a local PC store, so I should hopefully get those before the week is out, but I do feel somewhat daft for not thinking of that previously.

    Also, it seems the mounting holes on these SP and AF fans are far from sturdy. Already broke one of them trying to cut into the fan plastic with one of the standard fan screws. Looks like the corner pieces can be removed, so I can flip it around and use the other side, and since the front case fans and the two on my radiator use long screws that go into a metal plate behind the fan, they're safe.. I just hope I can get the case fans mounted without causing any further damage.

    One very sad panda right here..
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  4. Posts : 6,075
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       #74

    Bad luck mate.

    If there was an award for the longest build I think you might have it in the bag lol.

    I hope the fans arrive swiftly.
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  5. Posts : 9,600
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       #75

    ZaLiTH said:
    So.. Since my weekends these days seem to be filled with anything and everything except building my monster, I decided to start putting it together tonight instead.

    ...and I've already run into a few issues. The gorgeous Corsair fans I got are all the 3pin non-PWM type, which I just noticed will not work with my ThermalTake cooler. I just ordered two SP120 PWM versions from a local PC store, so I should hopefully get those before the week is out, but I do feel somewhat daft for not thinking of that previously.

    Also, it seems the mounting holes on these SP and AF fans are far from sturdy. Already broke one of them trying to cut into the fan plastic with one of the standard fan screws. Looks like the corner pieces can be removed, so I can flip it around and use the other side, and since the front case fans and the two on my radiator use long screws that go into a metal plate behind the fan, they're safe.. I just hope I can get the case fans mounted without causing any further damage.

    One very sad panda right here..
    Try putting a little bar soap on the fan screw threads before screwing them into the fans.
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       #76

    Lady Fitzgerald said:
    Try putting a little bar soap on the fan screw threads before screwing them into the fans.
    Well now, in all my years in the computer world, I've never heard that one.. Makes perfect sense though, since it would allow the rest of the screw thread to slide more easily once the front has cut into the plastic. I'll give it a shot tonight, thanks for the tip. :)
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       #77

    ZaLiTH that bar of soap trick has been around for hundreds of years.
    It started to the best of my knowledge when driving nails in hardwood like oak. They soaped the nails so they could drive them without bending the nails.
    I have had many brands of fans and never had the problem you are having. Try using another set of screws. One set could of been made out of specs.
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  8. Posts : 9,600
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       #78

    Layback Bear said:
    ZaLiTH that bar of soap trick has been around for hundreds of years.
    It started to the best of my knowledge when driving nails in hardwood like oak. They soaped the nails so they could drive them without bending the nails.
    I have had many brands of fans and never had the problem you are having. Try using another set of screws. One set could of been made out of specs.
    Actually, when driving nails in hardwood, soaping the nails could cause the wood to split. What works better is to use a hammer to blunt the point of the nail a bit. That causes the wood fibers to crush under the end of the nail, making a hole, instead of merely getting pushed aside, possibly causing a split. Having a hammer with a properly dressed face (slightly crowned and smooth, but not polished; a checkered face is great for rough work but not for finish work) also helps to prevent bending, along with hitting the head of the nail squarely (who knew hammering nails was an acquired skill?).

    If the wood is so hard the nail still tend to bend, drilling a pilot hole is necessary. A quick and dirty way of making a pilot hole if the appropriate bit wasn't available was to chuck the pointed in of the same size nail in a drill and cut the head off square. The sharp edge that remained would drill a hole with a bit of effort (that tricked worked best on brads smaller nails).

    Nowadays, pneumatic nail guns are the best way to nail without bending (not to mention faster). Even for small projects around the house (and an occasional large one), I use a pneumatic brad nailer that handles 16 ga. brads 5/8" to 1.5" long. One of these days, I'm going to break down and get a little pin nailer.

    Soaping was done on screws. Paraffin (wax for you folks on the east side of the pond) also worked but could stain wood.

    I minored in Industrial Arts Education when I was in college and worked in cabinet shops for a short while after graduating (jobs were scarce at the time) until I landed in a much better paying job with good bennies, mostly working in warehousing. I learned the soap on screw threads trick, however, from my daddy when I was a kid (he also kept a block of paraffin in his little workshop for lubing screws).

    Corsair fans have sad reputation for breaking at the screw holes (I've seen a lot of complaints about that in reviews and on the Corsair forums). Soaping may or may not help but it costs little to nothing to try.
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  9. Posts : 1,223
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       #79

    Lady Fitzgerald said:
    Corsair fans have sad reputation for breaking at the screw holes (I've seen a lot of complaints about that in reviews and on the Corsair forums). Soaping may or may not help but it costs little to nothing to try.
    I only realised this after getting them.. Not sure how I missed the complaints beforehand, the info I found would have made me think twice. I'll only know once it's all running whether or not it's worth the extra effort. Must admit, they do look really awesome though.

    One other point I'm going to try is holding a spacer of sorts inside the corner from the outside edge. While turning in the screws, the whole rubber section in the corner twists and bends horribly.. I'm hoping that holding it more firmly will help a bit with getting the screw to cut in more cleanly. Times like this that I really miss that darn left hand..
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  10. Posts : 9,600
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       #80

    ZaLiTH said:
    ...While turning in the screws, the whole rubber section in the corner twists and bends horribly.. I'm hoping that holding it more firmly will help a bit with getting the screw to cut in more cleanly. Times like this that I really miss that darn left hand..
    That's why I suggested the soap. It's lubricating qualities may allow the screw to turn more freely in the rubber without twisting it (the rubber, not the screw) all out of shape.

    What's going on with the left hand?
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