Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Got a New Case!

29 Apr 2014   #51
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Well, I did get some work done today. I decided to just relocate the stock feet instead of replacing with the rubber feet I had planned on using since one of the rubber feet wouldn't fit (the PSU filter slide rail was in the way) and because they were shorter than I would have liked with a bottom filter. There is one foot at the front and another one at the back and each foot goes from one side of the case to the other. The feet are held in with a plastic dowel on each side of the foot that keys into a locating hole and is secured with a single 6-32 screw into a tapped hole in the case on each side of the case. I needed to relocate the feet because they were too far apart to fit on the nightstand my present computer sets on. I had to lay out new holes, then drill and deburr them. I'll have to get some slightly longer screws and some 6-32 nuts to secure the feet to the case. Again, no pictures because there is nothing exciting about a bunch of holes. I still need to drill out the old dowel holes so I can put in the 3/8" hole plugs I ordered. At least I'm not cramping tonight.

I'm debating on if I want to cut out the grill under the PSU or not.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
01 May 2014   #52
ZaLiTH

Win 10 x64 Pro x64 / Ubuntu 15.10 x64
 
 

Hehe... It sounds almost like you're remaking the entire case here Jeannie.

Early on in this thread you mentioned wanting to remove the bottom drive cage spacer and add a third cage, but I didn't see much more after that. Are you still planning to do that or did I miss something somewhere..?

Owning a 600T myself, it's really interesting reading about all the similarities between this and the 650D... My first thought looking at the 650's interior was "hmmm... that looks virtually identical to mine".
My System SpecsSystem Spec
01 May 2014   #53
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

From post # 51

Quote:
I'm debating on if I want to cut out the grill under the PSU or not.
Normally a power supply fan doesn't run fast or often enough to worry about the grill. If it was my case I would leave it alone.
Taking strength out of the bottom of the case where all the weight is might not be helpful. It might allow the bottom of the case to get a twist and the side panels wouldn't fit properly.
Of course I don't have the case in front of me so these are just my thoughts.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

01 May 2014   #54
ZaLiTH

Win 10 x64 Pro x64 / Ubuntu 15.10 x64
 
 

Some PSU fans don't even run until the temp gets higher.. Seasonic Platinums, for example, only turn on the fan at 25 degrees Celsius.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
01 May 2014   #55
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ZaLiTH View Post
Hehe... It sounds almost like you're remaking the entire case here Jeannie. ...
Yup, I'm pretty much remaking the entire case; it just won't look much different. The main changes are to seal up the multitude of air dust leaks without looking too rinkydink.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ZaLiTH View Post
...Early on in this thread you mentioned wanting to remove the bottom drive cage spacer and add a third cage, but I didn't see much more after that. Are you still planning to do that or did I miss something somewhere..?...
I am (kinda sorta) and you didn't; I just haven't gotten that far yet. I'm going to shorten (not remove) the bottom HDD cage base roughly 1/4" so the level of the bottom two HDD trays will match the level of the top two HDD trays in the third cage to make it easier for air from the front fan to get to the top two HDDs in the third cage (the SSD will be in the bottom tray and won't need as much air). I'm also going to move the front two HDD cages forward a bit so they line up with the third cage (why on Earth couldn't Corsair have done any of this in the designing stage?).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ZaLiTH View Post
...Owning a 600T myself, it's really interesting reading about all the similarities between this and the 650D... My first thought looking at the 650's interior was "hmmm... that looks virtually identical to mine".
It's pretty much identical. The front, bottom, and back metal panels are identical. The top metal panel is different. The 650D also has a different plastic panel on the front (although the front air filter is the same, same as the bottom PSU filter) and no added bottom, back or top plastic panels. Since the bottom plastic panel of the 600T served as the feet, the 650D has different feet added. The difference in the metal top panel is the 650D's is deeper, has a built-in fan grill, and has a built-in hot swap bay, one of the major things that attracted me to this case; some others include the ability to have space for 9 HDDs, easy to clean filters, and the ability to get a solid left side panel (the left and right side panels are interchangeable so I bought a second right side panel to replace the left side one).

A lot of the parts I've ordered for this case aren't listed under the 650D at Corsair's or at Performance PC's website; I had to order the equivalent 600T parts.

I did do a bit of work on the case yesterday; I removed the top hot swap bay and sealed up some leaks on it (the thing was a sieve). Here are some before shots:

This is one of the two tabs that have to be bent up to remove the bay.

Got a New Case!-img_0001.jpg

A couple more before shots:

Got a New Case!-img_0003.jpg

Got a New Case!-img_0007.jpg

I had originally planned on sealing the leaks with pieces of thin black plastic glued onto the sides but I was afraid I would get glue into the little tracks so I used some aluminum tape I had knocking about instead. It's crude but it did the job and won't show unless one works hard to find it.

Got a New Case!-img_0012.jpg

Got a New Case!-img_0017.jpg

Got a New Case!-img_0019.jpg

I have a paint pen on the way that should do wonders to kill all that shine. There is still going to be a bit of a gap on the sides when I eventually put the bay back in but the acoustic foam I'm going to add will seal that up nicely.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
01 May 2014   #56
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
From post # 51

Quote:
I'm debating on if I want to cut out the grill under the PSU or not.
Normally a power supply fan doesn't run fast or often enough to worry about the grill. If it was my case I would leave it alone.
Taking strength out of the bottom of the case where all the weight is might not be helpful. It might allow the bottom of the case to get a twist and the side panels wouldn't fit properly.
Of course I don't have the case in front of me so these are just my thoughts.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ZaLiTH View Post
Some PSU fans don't even run until the temp gets higher.. Seasonic Platinums, for example, only turn on the fan at 25 degrees Celsius.
Thanks for the thoughts, guys! I'm leaning the same way myself. Because of the filter and the rails it rides in, the hole would be small enough to not be likely to weaken the case any but why take chances if it isn't really necessary. Besides, there just isn't any way to keep a hole like that from looking all raggitty.

From what I've read, the Seasonics actually determine when to turn on the fan by the amount of load (70%) on them. In my house, 25C would have them running constantly much of the year; it's 27C where I and the computer are in my house right now.

I'll be glad when all the pollen and dust stirring wind we have been having goes away. My allergies and sinuses are driving me nutz! It's supposed to let up by tomorrow so, hopefully, I'll be able to run a few errands, including picking up a bunch of the stuff I ordered.

I've decided to just cut away the mesh on the top of the case and cover the hole with a Koolance radiator shroud. This is an example of how it would look:

Got a New Case!-corsair-650d-koolance-140-shroud.jpg

Besides simplifying things dramatically, it will give me a bit more room between the top of my CPU cooler and the top fans (it was going to be a bit snug up there otherwise).


My System SpecsSystem Spec
01 May 2014   #57
ZaLiTH

Win 10 x64 Pro x64 / Ubuntu 15.10 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I am (kinda sorta) and you didn't; I just haven't gotten that far yet.
Awesome, I'm definitely keeping an eye out for that.. Very interested to see how it turns out.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
From what I've read, the Seasonics actually determine when to turn on the fan by the amount of load (70%) on them.
Hmmm... I'm off to do some more research then. It does make more sense to base it on the unit load though, it's quite possible that I misunderstood that feature.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
01 May 2014   #58
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

What power supply are you going to be using?
If you have posted that information I can't find it.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
01 May 2014   #59
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I haven't decided yet. I have a semi-modular spare early Corsair HX750w (the one that was made by Seasonic) knocking about but the CPU power and 24pin cables are not modular. I would want to shorten the 24 pin cable and lengthen the CPU power cable and sleeve them both (the stock sleeves are a transparent joke) but that would void the warranty (it still has at least five years on it). A warranty replacement wouldn't be the original Seasonic, either (the reason I bought the spare since I otherwise would have had to remake my cables if the other HX750w that is in my present rig should go belly up).

I am leaning strongly towards the fully modular Corsair AX760, also made by Seasonic. That one has a hybrid mode that can be switched out if desired. Hybrid mode is the one that keeps the PSU fan turned off until a certain load level is reached. Being fully modular, it would be easy to slip it out of the case and slip in a replacement without having to redo any of my cabling. While, technically (per Corsair), using non-Corsair cables voids the warranty (according to federal law, it doesn't unless it actually is the cause of failure), all one has to send in is the PSU itself for warranty repair/replacement. It's also 3/4" shorter than the HX750w which would give me a welcome extra 3/4" between the PSU and the third HDD cage.

A similar PSU, the Corsair AX760i, is made by another manufacturer who is supposed to also be good but costs more and has extra bells and whistles that require a separate module (which is included) and a USB 2.0 header connection, all of which I don't see as really needed for me and don't want to have to mess with. It also runs the fan full blast for around 10 seconds then reducing the speed when booting up. I've seen complaints equating the full speed fan noise to that of a hair dryer. While I only reboot only once a week, I still would find that annoying.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
01 May 2014   #60
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I use a AX860i but I don't think I would buy another (i) unless it was required for the system.
I got the (i) version to use the Corsair Link which is a ball of wax.
Remove it and no problems without it.

The (i) and non (i) use different parts and methods to get the same job done. What I have found that when tested the results are so close that their really enough difference to mount to anything.
Using your system it would be very hard to get to a 75% load on either the AX750 or AX860. I have to use test programs to get a load that high.
Under normal use the fan doesn't even come on. The power supply is 4C above ambient temp. So I really don't believe you will have a temp problem or noise fan/air flow problem.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Got a New Case!




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
The Case of the Missing Pillow Case
Please press play to set the right mood as you read. ;) NzlG28B-R8Y The Case of the Missing Pillow Case Today appeared to be a normal day just like any other. I had decided that I should strip the beds and wash the sheets from them since it had been a while and they were starting to...
Chillout Room
Got my new case :)
I just got my new 600T White case in today, as well as my Seasonic PSU & RAM :) It was killing me to see what it looked like powered up, and still another week before I can order the rest of my new build. So, I moved the main guts of the old system into the new case w/the PSU. Yea,...
PC Custom Builds and Overclocking
Going Case Less
Anyone have their mother board and all else out of the case? Ie mouned to a table or on a wall?
Chillout Room
new case
I too, am looking for a new case to upgrade. My old one is a Ultra E-Torque mid tower ATX case. Nice and roomy but lacks ports in case for wire management. I have some specific options I'm looking for. They are as follows: mid/full tower, clear sided, 1 or 2 bays for 3.5" that are at the middle or...
PC Custom Builds and Overclocking
what case?
Im looking to upgrade my case when i buy my new GPU and CPU cooler (GTX 470 and h50-1 water cooler) and im pretty sure its not going to fit in side my current case. I need a case around the 100 mark as money is going to be a bit tight after buying the GPU and the cooler. Any ideas??
PC Custom Builds and Overclocking


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:44.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App