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Windows 7: Time to build a monster

06 Sep 2014   #1
Lava King

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 
Time to build a monster

The release of Haswell-E has given me the motivation to finally build a new machine, and I think that it should be a monster, or at least a potential monster.

Prices are high, but I think that a top of the line (consumer grade, anyway) system will be relevant for many years. Besides, in 1994 I paid $2500 for a true blue IBM 486 DX 33 with 8 MB of ram and running OS/2 so I'm not opposed to forking over the cash

Barring any unfortunate occurrences in the next month or so, this build will definitely happen. It's not a "pie in the sky" dream. DDR4 RAM seems to be in short supply right now so I'm willing to wait for a bit so that supplies can stabilize.

Here's what I'm considering:


CPU: i7 5960X - Though I don't see the need for 8 cores today, they'll be needed down the road.

Motherboard: Toss-up between Gigabyte and EVGA, more research needed.

RAM: 16 GB (4 x 4 GB) - Here's where I'm going to "cheap out" for now. RAM is a definite upgrade path

Cooling: Cooler Master Glacer 240



The rest of the components will come from my current build (GPU, PSU, SSD, HDD, Case) though I may get a new optical drive with a black face to replace the white faced drives currently in the system.


Suggestions and comments are welcome!


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07 Sep 2014   #2
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

I honestly would go for the 5930K(or whatever the $500-ish CPU is) because it's still a MONSTER CPU and will be a powerhouse for years to come. Unless you are doing some heavy rendering or running scientific programs you'll likely never need the extra 2 cores even a few years down the road. Save $500 and put it elsewhere.

I like the new EVGA boards that are out, as well as the Gigabyte boards, but don't overlook Asus motherboards.

Once you start pricing DDR4 RAM, you'll quickly see you aren't cheaping out lol......that stuff is crazy expensive. A 16GB kit will be plenty.....unless you are doing heavy graphical work like I mentioned above.

The only other issue is your current power supply. It needs to be up to the task of running the new beast you put together. The new CPU's still get power hungry, especially once you start OC'ing them.

Keep us updated on this rig, it sounds like it's gonna awesome.
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07 Sep 2014   #3
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

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07 Sep 2014   #4
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

The CAS latency on DDR4 sticks I've seen is pretty bad--13 to 17; compared to maybe 8 or 9 for the typical DDR3 stick.

Choose Memory - PCPartPicker

Not sure how that affects performance in most cases, but the CAS specification may improve over the next few months as DDR4 production ramps up.
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07 Sep 2014   #5
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

The CAS latency is what it is. It will never be the same as DDR3 CAS latencies. For the most part, the higher the frequency, the higher the timings.
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07 Sep 2014   #6
Lava King

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

While it's true that I may never put the 5960X to full use, it's what I want. I'll never be able to afford a Ferrari or Lamborghini, But I can afford this

Still haven't decided on a motherboard. On the Gigabyte side I'm looking at the G1 Gaming and the SOC Force. On the EVGA side I'm looking at the X99 FTW. Guess I'm going to have to make a list of Pros and Cons (and then flip a coin)

RAM considerations: A moot point for now since vendors don't seem to have any RAM actually in stock, everything is "1 to 5 weeks" or "1 to 2 months" out. I'm still thinking 16 GB will be a good starting point and I would be quite happy with 2133 MHz but I'm sure that there will be some good deals on faster RAM once stocks start building up.

Power: The 5960X is rated at 140 Watts, my current cpu (Core 2 QX9650) is rated at 130 Watts, so not that big of a difference. I have no plans to OC right off the bat, I'm sure that my PSU will be able to handle the load. When I do plunge into OC land then I'll probably get a new PSU.

For now I'm saying that the build is a month out, maybe two. Unless, of course, the parts suddenly become more readily available.
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07 Sep 2014   #7
Lava King

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

OK, not exactly a fair comparison (DDR3 at 2000 MHz, DDR4 at 2400 MHz) but it does give you a feel for the difference between DDR3 and DDR4.

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08 Sep 2014   #8
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Sounds like you are going to get some wicked new parts Kent. It will also finally allow you to use all the power of your GPU. I look forward to it
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08 Sep 2014   #9
Dude

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

That is going to be one great rig, I'm looking forward to it
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08 Sep 2014   #10
Lava King

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Uh oh, lots of bad reviews of the Cooler Master Glacer 240L on NewEgg. Looks like pump failure could be a problem.

New choice for CPU cooling is Corsair H105.
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