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Windows 7: Average Overclocking

23 Jan 2015   #1
Pantz

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Average Overclocking

Hello Everyone, i have OC Before but its been a while since i have done it, i have read that i can OC via Either the Multiplier or HT/ FSB ? i am currently sitting at Default Setting with my Asus Sabertooth R2 and my FX 8320.

i have seen people really push their OC i have no intention on Pushing my OC. i would probably like to go to 3.8 safley with out upping the VID to much,

What would be the best way to achieve this ? via multiplexer or or HT / FSB

Thanks in advance.


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25 Jan 2015   #2
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

What kind of cooling do you have on the 8320? I would definitely not do any overclocking on that CPU using the stock AMD cooler. The FX 83XX series chips run too hot to use anything but an aftermarket cooler, or preferably water cooling if you want to OC.
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26 Jan 2015   #3
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Things to consider about overclocking is do you have the hardware for it? As Mellon Head stated, I would not consider it with the stock heatsink supplied with the CPU. I have a drawer full of them, never used. They are that bad. Are the rest of your components up to the job? Do you have a quality brand PSU, is your air flow quite good. Overclocking will stress everything in your computer, so be ready. The best advice I ever received on overclocking is, if you can't afford to replace it, don't overclock it.
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26 Jan 2015   #4
Pantz

Genuine windows 7X64
 
 

Hello Everyone I do Think i have the Required Components to do a Fairly moderate / Descent OC

Asus Sabertooth 990 FX
AMD 8320 Black Edition
8 Gigs Corsair Vengeance 1866
Zalman CNPS 10 Extreme
Corsair TX 750 V2 PS
all in an older case

new case Corsair Carbide Series 300R CC-9011017-WW Windowed Gaming Case - Black: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

but will be Transferring everything into a Corsair Carbite 200 very soon, the 200 not the 300

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26 Jan 2015   #5
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

You still need better temps. Your TJ Max is 90 but I wouldn't let it get near that. The temps are being read by software which is notoriously wrong. So, stay a good bit away from the TJ Max.

When you change cases you will have to re paste the cooler, as I am sire you will have to remove the CPU cooler to do it. Take that opportunity and do it right. There are many philosophies on how to do it. If you use Artic Silver, which is a very popular thermal paste, find your CPU in the list here and get good instructions. This will show you one way which is very good and works well.

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27 Jan 2015   #6
Pantz

Genuine windows 7X64
 
 

Hello Everyone, well its 2 Steps forward and one step backwards, i was finally able to figure out how to OC by using the Multiplier and reduce the temp substantially ( my CPU HS was at default ) i am now running at 3.8Mhz, i have yet to stress test, because i just found our that i need to Update my BIOS for my MB and SSD,

I am guessing i should do all available update before continuing ?

and will the BIOS updates and SSD Firmware Update wipe out all my hard work ??

Thanks in advance


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27 Jan 2015   #7
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

You should only update your BIOS if it is absolutely necessary, (i.e. to solve a problem). If your PC is running well, then I wouldn't do it. It's very easy to brick your motherboard if the BIOS upgrade goes wrong.

But yes, a BIOS upgrade will set all your BIOS entries to default, which will undo your OC.

As far as the SSD firmware goes, I would make a complete backup of your SSD before beginning to upgrade the firmware. Some firmware upgrades can affect the data on the SSD, some won't, but it's always a good idea to back up before you do it. The SSD firmware most likely won't affect your OC.

Use a good program like Macrium Reflect to image and back up your SSD before the upgrade.

Edit: Keep in mind that the core temp on a Vishera processor is a calculated value, and at idle they are notoriously low. (My FX 8350 consistently reads about 19 degrees C below the processor case temp at idle, which is impossible). AMD has stated that the core temperature is only accurate at full load (or nearly there), and when the core temp is above 40C to 45C (IIRC).

You can also ignore TJ MAX as stated by Core Temp. You never want to take that processor's core temperature over 60C for any length of time. Doing so will damage it irreparably. TJ MAX is more useful for Intel processors, where the TJ MAX rating and the core temperature as measured by Core Temp are actually meaningful.
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28 Jan 2015   #8
Pantz

Genuine windows 7X64
 
 

Hello Everyone,Thanks for the Reply Mellon Head.well i went ahead with Both BIOS updates, just to be Safe. ( both updates were successful ), i then did all the other available updates for the Motherboard.and they were also successful,

I then booted into the BIOS ant choose : performance setting , and then manually set up the Multiplier to X19, and tried to booted into Windows.and got the boot manager missing error, went back into the BIOS and Choose My SSD to boot from and was then able to get into windows,

originally my SSD had the UEFI Label across the SSD when i initally installed it, now the UEFI label seem to be missing fron the SSD in the BIOS, ( i am still having issues setting up the SSD to be the second boot device, after the CD rom )

i then did a limited stress test (15 Mins ) and it seem to have Held up pretty well @ 3.8 MHZ with temps not passing 45C on Core temp and 52 on AIDA.

i am going to save and run this setting for a while before attempting 4.0 Mhz

Thanks for everyone Help


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28 Jan 2015   #9
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

AIDA for 15 minutes is not really long enough to test for stability. It won't even tell you your max temps. AIDA needs over an hour to reach close to max temps. Run it for 12 hours and then you can say you think it's stable.
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28 Jan 2015   #10
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Pantz View Post
Hello Everyone,Thanks for the Reply Mellon Head.well i went ahead with Both BIOS updates, just to be Safe. ( both updates were successful ), i then did all the other available updates for the Motherboard.and they were also successful,

I then booted into the BIOS ant choose : performance setting , and then manually set up the Multiplier to X19, and tried to booted into Windows.and got the boot manager missing error, went back into the BIOS and Choose My SSD to boot from and was then able to get into windows,

originally my SSD had the UEFI Label across the SSD when i initally installed it, now the UEFI label seem to be missing fron the SSD in the BIOS, ( i am still having issues setting up the SSD to be the second boot device, after the CD rom )

i then did a limited stress test (15 Mins ) and it seem to have Held up pretty well @ 3.8 MHZ with temps not passing 45C on Core temp and 52 on AIDA.

i am going to save and run this setting for a while before attempting 4.0 Mhz

Thanks for everyone Help

Just remember the actual temp max is 62c for the CPU yes not 90c

TJ max is not correct

Also keep in mind with your Asus Board it can deliver good voltage hitting 4Ghz should be pretty easy i can tell you for what you are shooting for 1.38 to 1.41volts would be the target for stability for 4Ghz which is not a hefty oc by any means but it will drive your temps up 5 to 8c so keep a eye on those

It would be better to use water instead of air you have a better chance of longer life and better performance all around

I have ran many AMD machines and the only chips i never put water on was a Phenom II 925 and Phenom II 965BE when FX came out much different story

Anyway you can reach at least 4,8 Ghz with the right tools but for you a mild 4.0 Ghz or 4.2 can be done and it will be more than a modest push for your needs
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