New build: Z97 vs X99

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  1. Posts : 1,436
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       #21

    AddRAM said:
    There`s nothing wrong with what you have for gaming, except maybe 3 things.

    1 You need a decent set of ram, I had 16 GB of Corsair Vengeance 1600 MHz running at 1866 just fine on that board. Get yourself a good set of 1866, either a 4x4 or 2x8 kit of Corsair Vengeance or GSkill Trident X.
    2 You need a 980, 970`s have known memory issues.
    3 Where do you have Windows ? On the Kingston or the Crucial ssd ? The Kingston is too small.
    1. Okay.

    2. Agreed, I've noticed I cannot play GTA V without it crashing every now and then but this might also be the CPU and I don't really know which it is, I mean in the eventviewer it says it is the GPU but when in-game it looks more like a CPU problem, starts lag really badly when I try out the steam overlay(shift+tab)..

    3. First I had it on the Kingston then I bought the Crucial and migrated Windows there, unfortunately I saw that it took a bit longer for Windows to start hence my move back to the Kingston.

    4. Well this is why I would also like to get a new system, would be fun to get to have the chance to have an M.2 slot or even a SATA Express slot.

    You know we are moving forwards.
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       #22

    SATA Express is already dead for all practical purposes. Some high end boards have it on them but there is pretty much nothing available to use it. Try to find an SSD or even a cable for it. PCIe and the mini PCI-e forms, like m.2 and m.4 are leaving SATAe in their dust and do not require the clunky, oversized connectors of SATAe.
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  3. Posts : 20,583
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       #23

    Yea I noticed the m.2 slot my board did not come with anything but a cover preinstalled over it
    I took it off and saw the mother board battery under it
    Shit I was wondering if it came with a battery in it lol
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  4. Posts : 13,576
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       #24

    Use the Crucial for storage then, and get one of these and do a fresh install on it.

    SSD 850 EVO 2.5" SATA III 250GB | Samsung Solid State Drives

    Use the Kingston for a coaster, it`s too small for anything really.

    Along with a decent set of memory and a 980, you should never have an issue with the Sabertooth Z77 and the 3570K.
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  5. Posts : 9,600
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       #25

    For a boot drive on a desktop machine (especially one that runs 24/7, like mine does), I would prefer one of the Samsung 850 Pros over the EVOs. I use the EVOS in my notebooks because I need the drive to also handle storage (I use 500GB models) and I have a hard time justifying a drive that costs as much or more as the notebook. Besides, my notebooks get very light use so those EVOs will still more than easily outlive the notebooks.

    For best operation and longest life, an SSD should maintain at least 20-25% unused space on it (for pretty much the same or similar reasons HDDs should have 10-15% free space on them). That pretty much makes the minimum size for an SSD 120-128GB unless you are a gamer and want to put your games on the SSD, in which case you would need to go larger.
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  6. Posts : 13,576
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       #26

    The 850 EVO rocks :)
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails New build: Z97 vs X99-samsung.jpg  
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  7. Posts : 9,600
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       #27

    The EVO is an excellent SSD. However, it will not last as long as the PRO for continuous or heavy use (high volume of writes). The PRO does perform better although, in actual use, the difference probably won't be all that noticeable. The PRO doesn't cost much more than the EVO. In fact, right now, the 256GB PRO costs the same as the 250GB EVO at Newegg (Amazon has the EVO running $40 cheaper than Newegg; the Pros are the same price as Newegg). Prices fluctuate quite a bit so it's a good idea to shop around.

    Again, for someone who doesn't run their computer 24/7 and don't thrash the SSD, the EVO is an excellent choice. For constant and/or heavy use, the PRO is the better choice.
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  8. Posts : 1,436
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       #28

    AddRAM said:
    Use the Crucial for storage then, and get one of these and do a fresh install on it.

    SSD 850 EVO 2.5" SATA III 250GB | Samsung Solid State Drives

    Use the Kingston for a coaster, it`s too small for anything really.

    Along with a decent set of memory and a 980, you should never have an issue with the Sabertooth Z77 and the 3570K.
    Ew a clean install, I don't know.

    So a pack of memory 16gb, a 980Ti and watercooling and I should be fit for fight.

    And maybe a 3770K upgrade perhaps.
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  9. Posts : 13,576
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       #29

    Come on, a clean install on the new drive is the best thing you can do It`s a must.

    This is an excellent cooler if you can fit it.

    Hydro Series™ H110i GT 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler

    A Ti, a Kingpin, a Classified or even a plain 980, you won`t go wrong.

    Ti`s aren`t even in stock yet

    http://www.evga.com/default.asp
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  10. Posts : 13,576
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       #30

    Jean, the Pro is $147 at Newegg plus tax. The Pro will always be higher.

    The EVO is $119 no tax directly from Samsung

    $117 at Newegg plus tax.

    How is that the same ?

    The European prices for Newegg are totally higher anyway, I didn`t even know that Newegg could be used in Europe.

    SAMSUNG 850 EVO MZ-75E120B/AM 2.5" 120GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - Newegg.com

    And only the 120GB EVO shows up, better to look directly at Samsung`s site.
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