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Windows 7: New build: Z97 vs X99

02 Jun 2015   #1
BorisTheAnimal

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 
New build: Z97 vs X99

Hiya ho,

I've been thinking about upgrading my current system though it is still a maybe. Now I know from experience that the first question that will be roared in my face is "why?" and I guess my answer to that would be a whisper about that I have noticed lag in programs and games.

Now I asked this same question on another forum where most users wanted to impale my balls on some sticks because they just thought it was the worst idea in the history of computer upgrading.

But it would be nice if someone could list some pros&cons between X99 and Z97. For example the biggest con with x99 would be that I would need to spend like at least 1.6k or maybe even more for just the motherboard, cpu and ram. If I decided to go with z97 then the cost would be the same but I could mash in a gpu(980/980Ti).


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02 Jun 2015   #2
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Well being I'm building a x99 Sabertooth system I can say first hand it is expensive
And I mean everything.
Just ram alone might be a wild tour and kidney selling for ddr4

But ultimately processors i7 5960x ouch 1k 8 core
I settled on the i7 5930k at 500.us which everywhere else showed 600.us 6 core
then there's the 5920k ? which is a 4 core not actually worth putting on a x99 board imho. can't remember the cost of it though ?

Just check your pocket book and flip a coin

This was my first build so I have a joke of a system anyway so a I doubled down from a z87 or z97 because well I'm kind of stupid and didn't mine spending the cash = see pocket book options

Either way the z87 are almost free @99.00$ at Amazon...
Not sure about the z97's ?
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02 Jun 2015   #3
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Well I have been doing a little research also and the big two things I'm thinking; one is price and some problems they are having at times. Both of these are probably because the X99 and what goes with it is are so new.

When I checked a few week ago all motherboards were having problems but I think they will be solved with time and bios and chip set updates.

When I built the system in my System Specs I went through hell with the cpu and motherboard.

When I did my research the motherboard and the 4820-E were compatible.
After back and forth with Asus and Intel changed their site. The bios would not work with a 4820-E. They now have a 4820-K that will work with the motherboard.
I don't think you can get the 4820-E any more.

To make my motherboard work with my 4820-E Asus replaced the motherboard with the same motherboard with Xeon chipset and Bios installed. This problem was because I bought the Intel cpu 4820-E when it first came out and was not completely tested to match the motherboard.

So the best advice I can give is just wait a little while until all the bugs are worked out or you could have a lot of headaches. After Asus took care of the motherboard problem the system works great.
It took me, Intel, Asus and my local Intel dealer about 5 week to work this problem out.

Check this out for a non Xeon cpu.

New build: Z97 vs X99-xeon.png


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02 Jun 2015   #4
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Well, everything about building an X99 rig is expensive.

You can get a Sabertooth Z87 and 4790K and be rockin, there is no point in getting a Z97, because they will not put out any desktop Broadwell cpu`s

If you want you can wait for Skylake and Z100.
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02 Jun 2015   #5
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Well I have been doing a little research also and the big two things I'm thinking; one is price and some problems they are having at times. Both of these are probably because the X99 and what goes with it is are so new.

When I checked a few week ago all motherboards were having problems but I think they will be solved with time and bios and chip set updates.

When I built the system in my System Specs I went through hell with the cpu and motherboard.

When I did my research the motherboard and the 4820-E were compatible.
After back and forth with Asus and Intel changed their site. The bios would not work with a 4820-E. They now have a 4820-K that will work with the motherboard.
I don't think you can get the 4820-E any more.

To make my motherboard work with my 4820-E Asus replaced the motherboard with the same motherboard with Xeon chipset and Bios installed. This problem was because I bought the Intel cpu 4820-E when it first came out and was not completely tested to match the motherboard.

So the best advice I can give is just wait a little while until all the bugs are worked out or you could have a lot of headaches. After Asus took care of the motherboard problem the system works great.
It took me, Intel, Asus and my local Intel dealer about 5 week to work this problem out.

Check this out for a non Xeon cpu.

Attachment 361209
That doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy inside
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03 Jun 2015   #6
BorisTheAnimal

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Well, everything about building an X99 rig is expensive.

You can get a Sabertooth Z87 and 4790K and be rockin, there is no point in getting a Z97, because they will not put out any desktop Broadwell cpu`s

If you want you can wait for Skylake and Z100.
Does Skylake bring anything new to the table? And is it for like gaming/multimedia use?
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03 Jun 2015   #7
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Here's a thread that might have some info
Skylake processor SKUs leaked
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03 Jun 2015   #8
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

That is a great question Boris!

New is not always better. Sometimes they offer things that one doesn't want or need.
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03 Jun 2015   #9
BorisTheAnimal

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Here's a thread that might have some info
Skylake processor SKUs leaked
Thanks mate.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
That is a great question Boris!

New is not always better. Sometimes they offer things that one doesn't want or need.
Yeah and I mean I just wanna be sure that I use my money on the right stuff. Though I think that X99 is somewhat out of my reach unless the prices were to drop.
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03 Jun 2015   #10
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

If you can wait another few weeks I'll let you know how well the integration goes with mine,
Hopefully it go smoother than Jack's did for him and x79

Board wise +- it all depends man if you want the latest....
I don't plan on upgrading or building another system for some time 5-6 years
All my upgrades are now not later although gpu's are up for grabs and easily upgradable I'm just unsure about spending 1100.us on one now when a lot of cheaper alternatives are here now :/
I have till the 9th to pick up the Titan x hybrid from UPS or it goes back to sender undelivered.
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