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  1. Posts : 19
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
       #1

    New Build Advice


    I'm thinking of upgrading/building a new PC, and I'd really appreciate some advice on parts. I've got a budget of around £700-£900.

    My current computer:
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
    Intel i7 950 3.07ghz
    Asus P6TD Deluxe
    AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
    CZ ModXStream Pro 600W ATX PSU
    Thermaltake V6 BlacX
    Samsung SSD 850 Evo 1TB

    I was looking at an Intel Core i7 4790k and Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 GPU (thoughts on these?), but I've got to admit when it comes to selecting a motherboard, PSU and case I feel a bit lost. My case layout as it is now is irritatingly fiddly; something I'd like to avoid in a new build.

    Any advice would be very much appreciated.
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  2. Posts : 12,012
    Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
       #2

    Give us a link to the websites from which you intend to buy the parts.

    What's the most intensive thing you do on the PC? Do you do that constantly, frequently, or occasionally?

    Are you a serious game player? Moderately? Not at all?

    Do you have overclocking intentions?

    To clarify: which of these parts do you need to buy for 700 to 900 UK pounds:

    Mouse
    Keyboard
    Monitor
    CPU
    Hard drive or SSD
    Second (or third? hard drive)
    Motherboard
    RAM (8 GB is typically enough; 16 maybe)
    Video card
    Sound card
    Case
    Power supply
    CPU cooler
    DVD drive
    Additional case fans
    Operating system (you'll probably need to buy unless your Ultimate is a retail version)

    For the case, take a look at Fractal Design; lots of models and generally highly regarded.

    PSU: look for Seasonic, EVGA, XFX, Super Flower, or certain models from Corsair, in the 450 to 550 watt range.

    How many years or hours of operation on your current PSU?

    Motherboard: I'd lean toward Gigabyte, Asus, or Asrock, but you first have to decide on your socket/platform choice. The 4790K is socket 1150 and very strong, but it's likely the end of the line for that socket. The newer "Skylake" CPUs use the 1151 socket. If you think you have a legitimate use for more than 4 cores, there is yet another socket choice.

    More details needed, particularly on the parts list. Most likely, you don't need every part on that list.

    If you can give a link to your vendors of choice, we can go there and look over their choices and try to keep you under 900 pounds.
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  3. Posts : 19
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Hi ignatzatsonic, thanks for getting back to me.

    I've generally been looking on Amazon for parts, they seemed to have reasonable prices for the CPU and GPU last time I checked, but I'm open to any other suggestions. Last build I just looked around for the lowest prices from a variety of websites and from some from real shops.

    I'm a gamer, and also use photoshop regularly and intend to start learning some 3D modelling software (ZBrush) for work, but that's probably the most intensive use the computer will see. I'm a bit of a neophyte when it comes to overclocking, so it's an option but in all likelihood not something I'll have the time to look into seriously any time soon.

    I'm intending to buy:
    CPU
    GPU
    Motherboard (preferably with an integrated sound card as I've a decent hi-fi for music)
    RAM
    Case
    CD/DVD Drive
    Possibly a PSU - my old one's 3 years old.

    Hope that's some help. Apologies if I take awhile to respond to any replies, I'll have very intermittent access to the web this week but will try to keep an eye out.
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  4. Posts : 3,487
    Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
       #4

    Don't forget to add in the cost of a good CPU cooler and case fans. The stock coolers that come with most processors aren't very good. A better cooling system will help your CPU live a longer, happier life.

    Also factor in the cost of a new copy of Windows 7 if you don't have a retail copy. Changing the CPU and motherboard on a machine with an OEM license could invalidate that license. At the very least, you might have to call Microsoft and persuade them to let you reactivate your OEM copy on the new hardware. Worst case scenario is that you have to buy a new copy of Windows and use that key, or reinstall. Of course, since you have Windows Ultimate, this may not be an issue because I think that Ultimate was only available in retail versions (though I could be wrong), but it does need to be considered.
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  5. Posts : 19
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Actually by good fortune I have another copy of Windows Ultimate (long story), but I'm OK for an OS. What sort of ballpark are prices for decent CPU fans?
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  6. Posts : 12,012
    Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
       #6

    Here's a start with some decent suggestions just to give you an idea.


    These parts total 521 pounds including VAT and do NOT include a video card. I'll leave that to others as I don't use them. I'm assuming you'd keep your current PSU.

    You can of course cut back on the CPU or RAM amount as necessary to meet any particular budget.

    I included a strong overclockable processor and an above average inexpensive cooler.


    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...=6&subcat=3069

    CPU: Intel 6600K; 200



    Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD3 Motherboard (Socket 1151, Z170 Express, DDR4, S-ATA 600, ATX, USB 3.1): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

    Gigabyte Z170X-UD3 motherboard; 111



    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...=8&subcat=2552

    RAM: Crucial 16 GB, DDR4 2133; 80



    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...362&catid=2277

    Case: Fractal Design R5: 85



    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...d=701&catid=10

    Samsung DVD burner; 15



    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...701&catid=2330

    Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo cooler; 30
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  7. Posts : 19
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Thank you for this - at a glance all looking good. If anyone had any thoughts on the MSI GeForce GTX 970 fitting into that set-up they'd be much appreciated. With regards the processor, is there an appreciable difference between the i7 6700k and the i5 6600k for how I'll be using the computer? I guess the problem I have is gauging how the system will meet the demands I'll be putting on it and whether it's worth spending a little more now to 'future-proof' or simply upgrading a little sooner in the future.
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  8. Posts : 12,012
    Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
       #8

    You can Google around for the circumstances that might benefit from the hyper-threading on the 6700K. It has noticeable advantages in some cases, but those cases are not common---such as extensive video rendering. I have no idea if it's useful in 3D modeling.

    If the i7 were only, say, 20 pounds more, then yeah, why not. But it's considerably more than that. On the other hand, maybe the price difference means little to you? On yet another hand, what if it helps you, but only once a week, where hyper-threading lets you do some task in 25 minutes rather than 30. Would that be a big deal to you?

    Can't help on video cards, but I don't know why any particular 970 wouldn't be fine. There may be some versions of the 970 that are preferable to others and I wouldn't know anything about that.

    You can read more about the Fractal case here, with 88 reviews:

    Fractal Design Define R5 FD-CA-DEF-R5-BK Black Computer Case - Newegg.com

    You'll have to buy some thermal paste if you don't have any. You shouldn't need any case fans as the Fractal includes 2.

    If noise is an issue for you, you could replace the fan on that Coolermaster cooler or just buy another cooler known to be quieter--a Noctua maybe.
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  10. Posts : 3,487
    Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
       #10

    Linconclusive said:
    Actually by good fortune I have another copy of Windows Ultimate (long story), but I'm OK for an OS. What sort of ballpark are prices for decent CPU fans?
    Actually, ignatzatsonic recommended the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo, which is what I was going to recommend.
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