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Windows 7: My SkyLake 6700k Journey

31 Oct 2015   #11
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

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i just don't understand how both boards locked up the USB
Are you referring to the installation of Windows 7 on Z170 boards?

As I understand it, by default the Z170 chipset and BIOS will not support full USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller (EHCI) mode. This means that USB devices will not work without an XHCI environment.

[PSA] Z170 chipset may affect Windows 7 users - www.hardwarezone.com.sg

It's a known issue and there are workarounds that vary between motherboard manufacturers.

Enabling USB legacy support in the UEFI is one such workaround.

Some BIOSes have a choice to "enable Windows 7 Installation" or "EHCI mode".

ASRock has a USB 3 support patch for Windows 7 installation. As an alternative, you can also download the USB drivers and add them to a Windows ISO.

I don't have any personal experience with this stuff yet, but I'm planning on a Skylake machine (6600K) and that's what I've discovered from studying so far.

That was the workaround Legacy USB also when i unplugged it ,It stop being stuck not so much with the Gigabyte one it continued to be stuck it sucked balls

This shouldn't be a issue at all i have no idea why they do things like this knowing not everyone is using USB3.0 devices


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31 Oct 2015   #12
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Yea I really don't see how uefi is more secure than legacy unless someone uses a password to access the bios but you can do that on both :/

To me uefi adds more risks than secure
Having utilities that have direct access to the bios to make changes seems more of a risk not less of a risk

So unless a bios password is used where's the security really seems more of a convenience than anything
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31 Oct 2015   #13
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Yea I really don't see how uefi is more secure than legacy unless someone uses a password to access the bios but you can do that on both :/

To me uefi adds more risks than secure
Having utilities that have direct access to the bios to make changes seems more of a risk not less of a risk

So unless a bios password is used where's the security really seems more of a convenience than anything
Pretty much skipping through all the BS they want you to install 10 from the jump and go from there

If i would of bought Windows 10 after confirming this i would have the working Gigabyte Board so i am like Mother-clucker over here because these people are throwing curve balls on new gear
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31 Oct 2015   #14
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Yea but 10 would have to be on a flash or cd so what's the difference ?
usb3 device okay they are pretty cheap would that really of made it easier if so add to cart
I have 1 I believe but it's huge so I doubt I would waste it on a small iso installer :/
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31 Oct 2015   #15
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Yea but 10 would have to be on a flash or cd so what's the difference ?
usb3 device okay they are pretty cheap would that really of made it easier if so add to cart
I have 1 I believe but it's huge so I doubt I would waste it on a small iso installer :/

You can always opt for the actual Disc lol
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31 Oct 2015   #16
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Personally I would prefer to buy a os that would come with a disk
10 doesn't yet as far as I've seen it's all downloads so yea burning to a cd I suppose is okay why didn't you ?
10 for sell at like Newegg/.. I'm not sure if those are on cd's or just downloads ?
Nice info to know none the less about usb2

My 8 pro upgrade is a bootable flash on a usb2 device still not using tried it and bailed out of 8.1.
Start8 goes to waste really didn't help 8 much but did a little.
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31 Oct 2015   #17
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Are you guys blaming the OS? Tommy's problem was the BIOS settings. As far as I know, Asrock has, for some strange reason, always had legacy USB 3.0 disabled. I don't know about Gigabyte. My P67 Asrock board was that way, and that was before Windows 10 was even on the drawing board, and Windows 8 wasn't released yet. The only reason Windows 10 worked is because 10 has native support for USB 3.0, 7 does not. I'm not sure about 8/8.1, but I don't think so.

UEFI is safer. You guys are just thinking of the wrong kind of safe. Windows 10 will install in MBR or UEFI mode. It just depends on how the BIOS is set up. I've installed mine both ways, I'm in UEFI mode now.
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31 Oct 2015   #18
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Yea I was just asking what the difference is a bootable flash installer is no different than another although supporting drivers might help but if the setting is disabled that is another story

I was also referring to all of the new utilities popping up that give a user direct access to bios from inside the os
This will also give any malware..... that is designed to corrupt the bios
I personally don't see how that is more secure quite the contrary I see it as less secure

I know you Steve don't use that type of bios accessible utilities from the os and I now see at least one reason why
Giving a user easier access also gives bad guys easier access imho.

I have yet to try to install anything with a usb device on my asus system so I don't know if it will work or not.
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31 Oct 2015   #19
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Mike, if you are in UEFI Mode, you may have to disable Secure boot and possibly alter CSM, depending on your settings. If you are installed in MBR, you shouldn't have any problems booting from USB. UEFI disables any external virus or .EXE file from executing and altering the boot settings at startup. I don't know a whole lot about it, but for it to run at startup it is supposed to have to have an acceptable digital signature, and then your computer writes a private key to the UEFI file. Only those things will load at startup. I'm sure, in time, the bad guys will find a way around it, but it does make it a lot harder for something to take over the boot partition.
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31 Oct 2015   #20
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Yep as far as I know it's uefi compatibility mode
These are the only usb settings and partial was the default for x99
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