Please help me narrow down some components for a new PC

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    Also ddr4 ram on x99 runs in quad channel not z170 dual channel
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    So an ASUS X99-A motherboard? Anything else by a competitor for comparison on the same level? Is X99 what I want? The more USB 3.0 the better. I was really hoping for esata but I guess that's not an option without spending $400? I have 2 esata enclosures. I was hoping to avoid needing to transfer my esata card to the new PC because I think it's been slowing down my startup.

    EDIT: I thought Intel Skylake was the Z170 chipset? If I'm building a new system shouldn't I be looking at the Skylake and a Z170 motherboard?

    Confused.

    If I get a Skylake I'll need a z170 motherboard, correct? It seems there aren't many reviews on Z170 motherboards on Newegg compared to the x99 reviews. Is that because Skylake is newer or are people not buying Skylake?

    The Sabertooth has precious few 3.0 ports. There were 6 on the X99 I was looking at. I see very few options with ASUS for a Skylake motherboard. Most have very few USB 3.0 ports. I'd have to spend a lot more for a deluxe version to get more ports it seems. Why does the X99 board seem better?
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    Hi,
    I haven't really kept up with all of the z170 and skylake cpu stuff I'm not really in the market

    Prices usually dictate where people buy from
    I bought from Amazon my x99 mostly for the price = it was 50.00 cheaper than Newegg had it for.

    Like I said whether you think a quad core is enough skylake and the z170 is the newest stuff out there so if not too many reviews are out there than yea sells dictates reviews although negatives are usually the first to surface.
    No news is usually good news :)

    If you need more cores then the x99 is the only one that has 6 and 8 core cpu's which have already been posted.
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    Ah, I didn't know the Skylake were only 4 core. Even more confusing now. I would imagine I would want the newest chip with a new build so I assumed that meant the Skylake. But it seems it's limited to 4 cores. Are the benefits of the Skylake chip preferable to the previous generation with more cores? I don't know what Skylake brought to the table. I'm trying to keep in mind that I want it to not be outdated so soon, plus I want to have the option of upgrading in the future. So I don't want to get stuck with an old architecture.

    I hear a lot of people saying the Skylake is considered a downgrade. I'm wondering if I should go with X99 but it seems odd to go with an older chip. Will the previous generation Intel limit me in terms of next-generation video, or does it not matter as long as my video card handles it? What exactly are the "improvements" of Skylake if so many still prefer the older chip (broadwell?)? Which runs hotter?
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    I see Skylake brought "Full fixed function HEVC Main/8bit encoding/decoding acceleration. Hybrid/Partial HEVC Main10/10bit decoding acceleration." according to Wikipedia. I'm thinking I should go with Skylake for my needs, but the motherboards seem less than optimal. I don't want to spend $400 or even $300 on a motherboard but I need more than 4 USB 3.0 ports. There seemed to be some great X99 motherboards but for Skylake I don't see any decent ones for under $300 - sure there are several around $200 or under but they skimp on USB ports or optical out.

    My current Asus P6t Deluxe is packed with USB ports and eSATA and the box talked about the fact that it had all Japanese capacitors. Has all that just been abandoned now?
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    If you haven't decided what graphics card to go for then I would maybe wait for Pascal as it is coming out in like ~4 months.
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    I was probably going to go with an Nvidia 960 from EVGA as it's one of the only cards that supports HDCP 2.2. I don't know anything about Pascal.

    I would like to know more about the issues with coolers on the Skylake chip before I make any decisions on a cooler:

    Intel Skylake CPUs bent and broken by some third-party coolers | Ars Technica

    I wouldn't want to buy a cooler that would damage the CPU.
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    I don't know you've picked your budget at 1k
    So skylake is where you're at mobo/ cpu/ memory will cost about that
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    I can buy a Dell for around $1,000 with 16GB DDR4 memory and an Intel I7 Skylake. Why should it cost more for me to buy them separately? I thought the point of building your own was that it's cheaper and you get to pick your components? The Dell of course comes with a lousy video card and weak power supply.

    I find it hard to believe it will cost over $1,000 to put together a decent PC. My current PC which is getting old now (GTX 570, I7 920) didn't cost more than that, and I bought a new Antec case, a V8 cooler, and an 800W power supply too, plus 3GB of memory.

    I can go slightly higher than $1,000 but it has to stay in that range.

    I'm really stuck on a motherboard - they all seem to be very limited with USB ports which is frustrating. My current motherboard came with 8 USB (2.0 of course back then) plus e-sata and 1394a which I used to capture video on occasion from my cable box - I guess that's out now. Very disappointing that the newer motherboards are dropping so many ports - no esata, no 1394 Firewire, half the USB ports I currently have.
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    Dell like many other manufactures use or have made mobos/.... to their spec's plus high volume discounts
    You in turn get a crapload of junkware :)

    Price everything at bottom or cheapest brand/ price and you'd be pretty close to a manufactures spec's or what they are selling.
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