LED Dimming and Brightening

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  1. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
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    LED Dimming and Brightening


    Alright everyone, I can find no good reason for why this is occurring for me.

    As some of you know, I am trying to make a fan speed controller. So far, I am successful, save for the LEDs.
    I am using a 25Ohm potentiometer to control the fan speed, and that part works beautifully. The issue is that I want to use an LED indicator that glows bright at max speed, and is very dim at low speed.

    I have the set up like this:
    12V from PSU connected to the 25Ohm potentiometer (prongs 1 and 2 connected), then the Fan and LED (with 500Ohm resistor) in parallel.

    The fan slows and speeds up as intended, but the LED does not change at all...

    Can anyone help me out here?

    ~Lordbob
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  2. Posts : 9,537
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
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    Lordbob75 said:
    Alright everyone, I can find no good reason for why this is occurring for me.

    As some of you know, I am trying to make a fan speed controller. So far, I am successful, save for the LEDs.
    I am using a 25Ohm potentiometer to control the fan speed, and that part works beautifully. The issue is that I want to use an LED indicator that glows bright at max speed, and is very dim at low speed.

    I have the set up like this:
    12V from PSU connected to the 25Ohm potentiometer (prongs 1 and 2 connected), then the Fan and LED (with 500Ohm resistor) in parallel.

    The fan slows and speeds up as intended, but the LED does not change at all...

    Can anyone help me out here?

    ~Lordbob
    Here's the man that can do it.
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    I couldn't help myself.
    Last edited by The Howling Wolves; 09 Dec 2010 at 18:59.
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  3. Posts : 2,344
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #3

    Try to connect the LED's direct and not through the potentiometer
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  4. Posts : 1,117
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #4

    Can you post a schematic?
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  5. Posts : 2,737
    Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
       #5

    I don't think you are going to get the result you want. LEDs typically are on or off they are diodes. Some LEDs can be driven harder to be brighter but making that kind of change would be a huge change for a fan. You will need to use an incandescent bulb to get the effect you are looking for. There are some very cool bulbs now-a-days that even look like a RED LED.
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  6. Posts : 53,363
    Windows 10 Home x64
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    What is the voltage rating of the LED? What are the high and low range voltages when changing the fan speed pot? It may be they are indeed dimming, but it is a relatively small change. It may also be that the range is already near the brightest setting of the LED and therefore they are already almost fully bright even when the fan is turned all the way down. Just a thought. A Guy
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  7. Posts : 53,363
    Windows 10 Home x64
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    WindowsStar said:
    I don't think you are going to get the result you want. LEDs typically are on or off they are diodes. Some LEDs can be driven harder to be brighter but making that kind of change would be a huge change for a fan. You will need to use an incandescent bulb to get the effect you are looking for. There are some very cool bulbs now-a-days that even look like a RED LED.
    LEDS can be dimmed, but I'm not sure this is true of ALL LEDS. The LED's intensity can be determined by the level of voltage being supplied. Or the LED's intensity could be controlled using pulse-width modulation (PWM). That is beyond me though.

    A Guy

    P.S. I'm a TV Tech BTW, mostly boards these days, lol. Newer LED lit LCD TV's have local dimming, very complex though.
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  8. Posts : 2,737
    Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
       #8

    If you are talking about LED back lighting on LCD TVs they don't dim them. They turn some on and some off, the more that are on the brighter the less that are on the dimmer. They look like they are dimming because the light reflects off the backing and other LEDs.

    O = on and o = off

    OOOOOOO
    OOOOOOO
    OOOOOOO
    OOOOOOO = all on bright

    OoOoOoO
    oOoOoOo
    OoOoOoO
    oOoOoOo = half on half off dimmer

    ooOooOo
    OooOooO
    ooOooOo
    OooOooO = very dim
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  9. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
    Thread Starter
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    It is a red LED, so between 1.8V and 2.2V. I cannot draw a diagram right now, but here is the best I can do:

    12V in from PSU to
    25Ohm potentiometer to
    (500Ohm resistor to red LED) and fan

    Does that help? The fan and (resistor and led) are in parallel.

    ~Lordbob
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  10. Posts : 2,344
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #10

    One wire from PSU to Pot to fan
    Another wire from PSU to Resistor to led
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