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Windows 7: Thermal Paste Questions


16 Jun 2010   #1
OneSerious

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 
Thermal Paste Questions

Hi guys,

Just about to complete my first build. The system is for my dad and I hope to get it finished this week when I get the final parts. Everything is in place and ready to go to the best of my knowledge.

I've looked back at older threads and decided that pea sized blob in the centre using the pressure of the heatsink to spread is the way to go on the application side of things.

I just have a few more questions,

1. Does it it really matter which brand you go for? I hear everybody say about Arctic Silver 5 which is what I had intended to get. I forgot to order it with all the parts and didn't fancy paying another 2 postage to get some. I went to a local store and picked up some CoolerMaster stuff.

2. I've seen tutorials and the like having different techniques for different CPU's. The product I bought only covers instructions for Intel CPU's and it also says to apply to the heatsink rather than CPU. Does it matter what brand of CPU you have and which paste you are using?

The system is using an Athlon II x2 with standard heatsink.

Any help is appreciated, cheers.

Edit: What would you guys also consider good temps? My current Phenom II x4 965 idles at around 33C and tops out at about 55 when running games.


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16 Jun 2010   #2
Bootz

Vista Business x64
 
 

Artic Silver would be my first choice but i have also used just some cheap stuff from radio shack that worked fine.

The way i always do it is just apply a nice even layer on the cpu itself. has always worked fine for me.
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16 Jun 2010   #3
fishnbanjo

Vista 64 Ultimate, Windows 7 64 Ultimate, Ubuntu 9.10
 
 

If your heat sink has a pre-applied dot of thermal compound you might wish to use this on its own since I believe that is how it is designed to work, it will spread evenly atop the CPU.
If you do wish to use your own Arctic Silver and MX-3 are the one's the folks on the Alienware forums seem to prefer for CPU and GPU applications.
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16 Jun 2010   #4
sygnus21

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

I personally don't see an issue with using the coolermaster stuff as it's "name brand" but others will have their opinions as this is a great debate, as well as does all these super duper thermo pastes really work.

In the end it's all about benchmarks and how you feel about your temps.

BTW I've used Artic Silver 5 and Noctua’s NT-H1-1 thermo compound and couldn't see a difference.

Let the debate begin as this subject is as clear as mud
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16 Jun 2010   #5
OneSerious

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fishnbanjo View Post
If your heat sink has a pre-applied dot of thermal compound you might wish to use this on its own since I believe that is how it is designed to work, it will spread evenly atop the CPU.
If you do wish to use your own Arctic Silver and MX-3 are the one's the folks on the Alienware forums seem to prefer for CPU and GPU applications.
The CPU and heat sink have been used for a couple of months before I upgraded, they have been cleaned so there is no pre-applied stuff on it.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
I personally don't see an issue with using the coolermaster stuff as it's "name brand"
Honestly I thought as much, but just wanted to be on the safe side.
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16 Jun 2010   #6
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

The brand doesn't matter as much as the application, or the HSF it will be used with. If you have a good cooler that's ounted properly, and used the pea-sized blob, you'll be fine. I'm sure there are differences, but they won't be nearly as varied as the differences between coolers.

I guess a simpler way of say it is this. A stock cooler with Arctic Silver won't perform better than a good aftermarket cooler with generic thermal paste.
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16 Jun 2010   #7
Kipper

 

If you mean the stock AMD heatsink that comes with the Retail version of the CPU it will already have TIM applied; if you are going to run this system at stock speeds the pre-applied product will be just fine.

I find if I am using an aftermarket "Big Air" cooler that has direct contact with the heat pipes (where the mounting plate of the heatsink) has groves in it that applying the TIM to the sink and spreading with a flat surface object (credit card) to fill the groves without over applying is the best way to go.

If the heatsink has a nice solid flat base then I just apply to the CPU.

Ultra and Zalman are now offering a liquid TIM that is applied with a small brush and I am finding these to work great with no curing time for overclocks up to 4GHz.
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16 Jun 2010   #8
sygnus21

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
I guess a simpler way of say it is this. A stock cooler with Arctic Silver won't perform better than a good aftermarket cooler with generic thermal paste.
Agreed.

But like everything else, there is a market for thermo paste so....
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16 Jun 2010   #9
OneSerious

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Cheers for the help guys got it put on. Now I have another issue, when I power up for the first time there is no life.

PSU working (obviously).
CPU and case fans working.
HDD working.
Optical drive working.

Any idea why I'm not getting any bleeps or sign of life on the monitor?
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16 Jun 2010   #10
sygnus21

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Doublecheck to make sure "everything" is hooked up.... Including the CPU fan.

Also make sure your RAM is properly seated and correctly installed in the appropriate RAM slots.
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