I can NOT get it to back up to a DVD

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  1. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #11

    A few comments for what they are worth...
    I can do (Windows) file/folder backup and image to DVD+R (TDK) but honestly it is VERY slow. For some reason a full file/folder backup File/folder backup of around 3GB user data can over an hour. Then there is the endless debate on the reliability of DVD media and long term stability of typical low cost rewriters.

    Low cost internal or external USB HDD are the way to go. I believe you need at least 2 because they do fail. I also use 2 imaging programs which are both "free" - MS imaging and Macrium Reflect (free). I'll probably buy the upgraded Macrium. 50GB imaging takes me around 25 min with both MS and Macrium on default settings. Restore about the same time if not a little faster.

    In my opinion storing an image on a seperate partition is ok for:
    (1) initial trial when you first get your system
    (2) sometimes your OS just breaks and a reimage from the other partition could be faster. But still not ideal.
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  2. whs
    Posts : 26,210
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #12

    I think imaging to a partition on the same HDD is OK for a laptop with only one HDD. If you carry the laptop all over the country and do not want to lug an additional external disk, it serves like the OEM recovery partition - only better - and can be useful when you are on the road and need to recover the system. Whilst at home, I would still use an external disk for additional safety.
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  3. Posts : 10,994
    Win 7 Pro 64-bit
       #13

    FWIW: a lot of people have experienced problems backing up or doing a system image to DVDs. Apparently the brand of DVD burner in the computer, the brand of DVDs being used, whether the DVDs are + or -, RW or R, and the burning speed all contribute to success or failure. Some people have also discovered that using a blank DVD right out of the box causes problems unless it's formatted first separate from the formatting done by the Win 7 back up or imaging. A Microsoft user forum talks about some of the issues (going back to when 7 was in Beta and never fully addressed by Microsoft.)

    Problems creating system image onto DVD-RW
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  4. Posts : 6,349
    Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
       #14

    [/QUOTE]
    Given that it is an HP, you should create your DVD restoration set first, however, and then store those discs in a safe place.[/QUOTE]

    JDog42

    Definitely make your HP restore disks. Usually takes 2-3 DVD's.
    This only takes you to your original system but you will need them possibly one day.

    I'm a newbie on this forum.
    I just built this system I am using 3 weeks ago. My first build. My first Win7.
    Always had HP's with XP Pro the past eight years plus.

    I mention this only to recommend what I have found the past few weeks.
    You need two hard drives unfortunately.
    Even if the second is a small external for back-up and a sytem image.
    I didn't want to spend the extra $$$ either but I did.

    All the pre-built PC's should come with an advisory in large enough lettering to read.

    "It is highly recommended that you have an external storage device over 50GB in size to store backup files and images.
    Not included."


    As I said earlier I didn't really want to spend the extra money right now but it was the best alternative.

    Good luck.
    Mike
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  5. Posts : 4,517
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #15

    AS many have already stated, you are much better off Backing up to a Hard Drive.

    Be it a internal drive set aside for backups, or a external drive. Burning Images to DVD is really only useful as a hard back up of Key restore points.

    For example, a clean install of Windows that is activated, and possibly a second with all your software installed and settings made.

    Its simply not that effecient as a regular backup method, nor to be depended on. But still, leave the original backup on a Hard Drive as well.



    Having said that, saving a Image to a DVD should be possible. But you will need to Create a backup image to a Hard Drive 1st. Then burn that image to a DVD as a DATA disc.




    Keep this in mind:

    If you move all of your DATA off the OS drive (being picture, Music, Videos, Documents) the basic Image of Windows with little software installed will take up a regular DVD.

    Once you get all your software installed, it will likely take most of a Dual Layer DVD for the Image to be saved.

    This will be highly dependant on the Imaging program you choose. Some compress the back up better than others.

    Be sure to verify the Image after you create it.
    Burn slowly, and verify the burn afterwards,

    You will still need to back up all your user DATA as a seperate backup.
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  6. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #16

    Having said that, saving a Image to a DVD should be possible. But you will need to Create a backup image to a Hard Drive 1st. Then burn that image to a DVD as a DATA disc.
    Saving an image directly to a DVD is an option with Windows and 3rd party imaging software.
    In the past I restored from a windows 7 DVD image made directly to the DVDs in the first instance.
    But as stated many times before practice seems to indicate that DVDs are not a good choice.
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  7. Posts : 1,251
    Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
       #17

    [QUOTE=mjf;940447]
    But as stated many times before practice seems to indicate that DVDs are not a good choice.
    I now have over 400 GB in System Images, Macrium Reflect Images and Data backed up on 3 different external inert drives and it would take over 250 DVD's to cover the same job of backup. As soon as I finish posting here I'm going to do a fresh 24 GB System Image Backup on my LaCie 2TB eSATA Drive which shouldn't take but a few minutes.



    ~Maxx~
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  8. Posts : 1,251
    Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
       #18



    The 24.4 GB Windows System Image Backup took 5:41 minutes which is decidedly longer than the 3:35 minutes it takes to do a 7.9 GB Macrium Reflect Image Backup, but at least I didn't have to fumble around putting it on 6 DVD's.

    ~Maxx~
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  9. Posts : 328
    windows 7 home premium 64, and Windows 10 64 bit
       #19

    It looks like everyone here is in agreement that an external drive or adding another internal drive is the way to go. Do you need help with how to add another internal drive? I do not mean to offend you with that question. I simply wish to offer help and as I have no idea how familiar you are with the insides of a PC.

    Newegg.com - Hard Drives, Internal Hard Drives, Western Digital Hard Drives, Seagate Hard Drives, Hitachi Hard Drives, SAMSUNG Hard Drives, Hard Drive

    http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...al-Hard-Drives

    Here is a good place to get a hard drive and there are a few under $40 and some with free shipping. I hope this helps you out.
    Last edited by Techymike; 05 Sep 2010 at 12:03. Reason: add a link
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