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Windows 7: No Hang Dog this, it's somin' else.

28 May 2009   #1

Win7
 
 
No Hang Dog this, it's somin' else.

My new mobo is an ASUS M3A78-EM and I rely on the on board graphics, the installed HD is a Seagate Barracuda Sata 2 affair

The problems lay with starting up or a reboot.

I've been reading all the advise and following tutorials and so on, some fun, interesting and successful, some tedious but nothing ventured...... in an attempt to try and resolve boot hangs and delays.

On boot up or restart, I get the boot log sequence, this takes about 15 seconds, from there it goes to Starting Windows and logo, it hangs there for 35 seconds, then the screen goes black for 20 seconds, then it reverts back to a "starting Windows" and logo screen for about 20 seconds, then goes to the welcome screen and desk top.

I don't understand the reason why the 1st or 2nd "starting windows" screens.

A few days ago, briefly I had 2 internal HDs fitted, both with WIN 7 installed, one HD has now been removed completely but I'm wondering if this might be a reason for the 2 start windows, if there is any remnants left from the removed HD? if that makes sense.

I’ve checked the BIOS and boot sequence, all appears in order anything, else I should check?

If one of the "starting windows" could be eliminated, that would speed things up.

I’ll try and explain a little further, upon start or reboot, when the first "starting windows screen" appears the HD remains silent, there is no sound of a spin, for 35 seconds it’s silent, ( I think ), when the 2nd "windows starting" screen appears, then I hear the HD click and whirl, could any of this be connected?

During this 2nd "starting windows" the screen flickers for about 15 seconds and then settles, I am wondering also what might be the cause of this.
 
Lastly, the HD, in Win 7, I have not enabled XP mode in any shape or form, I’m doing without it so that can’t be a cause and no issues with the PC shutting down, ( didn’t know if that info’ was relevant/ important or not).

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28 May 2009   #2

W7 RTM Ultimate x64
 
 

I dont know, but maybe a format to the new 7127, or the coming ( i think) 7137, might help?

Enzo.
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28 May 2009   #3

SEVEN x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tram 1 View Post
My new mobo is an ASUS M3A78-EM and I rely on the on board graphics, the installed HD is a Seagate Barracuda Sata 2 affair

The problems lay with starting up or a reboot.

I've been reading all the advise and following tutorials and so on, some fun, interesting and successful, some tedious but nothing ventured...... in an attempt to try and resolve boot hangs and delays.

On boot up or restart, I get the boot log sequence, this takes about 15 seconds, from there it goes to Starting Windows and logo, it hangs there for 35 seconds, then the screen goes black for 20 seconds, then it reverts back to a "starting Windows" and logo screen for about 20 seconds, then goes to the welcome screen and desk top.

I don't understand the reason why the 1st or 2nd "starting windows" screens.

A few days ago, briefly I had 2 internal HDs fitted, both with WIN 7 installed, one HD has now been removed completely but I'm wondering if this might be a reason for the 2 start windows, if there is any remnants left from the removed HD? if that makes sense.

Iíve checked the BIOS and boot sequence, all appears in order anything, else I should check?

If one of the "starting windows" could be eliminated, that would speed things up.

Iíll try and explain a little further, upon start or reboot, when the first "starting windows screen" appears the HD remains silent, there is no sound of a spin, for 35 seconds itís silent, ( I think ), when the 2nd "windows starting" screen appears, then I hear the HD click and whirl, could any of this be connected?

During this 2nd "starting windows" the screen flickers for about 15 seconds and then settles, I am wondering also what might be the cause of this.
 
Lastly, the HD, in Win 7, I have not enabled XP mode in any shape or form, Iím doing without it so that canít be a cause and no issues with the PC shutting down, ( didnít know if that infoí was relevant/ important or not).
do you have a floppy drive..??, if not make sure this is also disabled or it will sit there trying to detect it.....



SK
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28 May 2009   #4

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

Hi Tram 1,

It sounds as though you might have 2 versions of the OS still listed on the boot screen, and it is trying to load the missing one by default, failing and then defaulting to the alternative which still exists. You should be able to get rid of this entry by following the instructions here BCDEDIT - How to Use
For example, here is my boot configuration:
Code:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7100]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit
Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier              {bootmgr}
device                  partition=D:
description             Windows Boot Manager
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {globalsettings}
default                 {current}
resumeobject            {dfa4d7f0-ee22-11dd-9151-80c0e23d2d5c}
displayorder            {current}
                        {dfa4d7ed-ee22-11dd-9151-80c0e23d2d5c}
                        {10b463b1-edca-11dd-b04d-b24914808d20}
                        {3fe3de61-ed67-11dd-ade0-981e9c5a65a3}
toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
timeout                 10
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {current}
device                  partition=C:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Windows 7 RC 7100 64-bit
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence        {dfa4d7f2-ee22-11dd-9151-80c0e23d2d5c}
recoveryenabled         Yes
osdevice                partition=C:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {dfa4d7f0-ee22-11dd-9151-80c0e23d2d5c}
nx                      OptIn
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {dfa4d7ed-ee22-11dd-9151-80c0e23d2d5c}
device                  partition=F:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Windows 7 RC 7100 32-bit
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence        {dfa4d7ee-ee22-11dd-9151-80c0e23d2d5c}
recoveryenabled         Yes
osdevice                partition=F:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {dfa4d7ec-ee22-11dd-9151-80c0e23d2d5c}
nx                      OptIn
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {10b463b1-edca-11dd-b04d-b24914808d20}
device                  partition=E:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit SP1
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
osdevice                partition=E:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {10b463b2-edca-11dd-b04d-b24914808d20}
nx                      OptIn
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {3fe3de61-ed67-11dd-ade0-981e9c5a65a3}
device                  partition=D:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
osdevice                partition=D:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {3fe3de62-ed67-11dd-ade0-981e9c5a65a3}
nx                      OptIn
C:\Windows\system32>
If I wanted to remove my Windows 7 RC 7100 32-bit from the menu, I would type the following:
Code:
bcdedit /delete {dfa4d7ed-ee22-11dd-9151-80c0e23d2d5c}
Note that you will need to substitute the correct identifier string from YOUR system.
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28 May 2009   #5

Win7
 
 

Great Dwarf and thanks.
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28 May 2009   #6

Win7
 
 

Hi Dwarf,

Here is a screen shot of my boot configuration, are you able to tell if I have an issue with my boot loadings from the attached.

I suspect it is the 1st boot loader entry I need to alter or delete, do I need to delete the whole entry or just a line in it.

You wrote "Note that you will need to substitute the correct identifier string from YOUR system."

I'm a little confused by this, if I delete the whole or a single line of the 1st entry do, I need to substitute with anything?

Before taking screen shot, I disconnected my external HD, I guess this was ok to do.


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No Hang Dog this, it's somin' else.-bcdedit.png  
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28 May 2009   #7

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

Hi Tram 1,

Having viewed your image, and compared it to the relevant part of mine, I think that I can see where the trouble is. I've highlighted it in the image below.
Name:  Capture.PNG
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This would seem to indicate that the boot manager was in fact installed on the HDD that you removed from your system. To correct this, type the following:
Code:
bcdedit /set {bootmgr} device partition=C:


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28 May 2009   #8

Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf View Post
Hi Tram 1,

Having viewed your image, and compared it to the relevant part of mine, I think that I can see where the trouble is. I've highlighted it in the image below.
Attachment 12358
This would seem to indicate that the boot manager was in fact installed on the HDD that you removed from your system. To correct this, type the following:
Code:
bcdedit /set {bootmgr} device partition=C:
Hi Dwarf,

Are you saying open command prompt delete the high lighted entry/line and type/replace it with bcdedit /set {bootmgr} device partition=C:

OR

are you saying open command prompt and at the curser type, bcdedit /set {bootmgr} device partition=C:
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28 May 2009   #9

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

Hi Tram 1,

The latter option,
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tram 1
open command prompt and at the curser type, bcdedit /set {bootmgr} device partition=C:
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28 May 2009   #10

Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf View Post
Hi Tram 1,

The latter option,
Thanks Dwarf,

Would you check the attatched.

Questions, why does it still show 2 boot loaders, can I despense/delete top one all together, is this advisable and how do I do this?

At the bottom of the 2nd boot loader, last line, it says "system 32, I thought Windows 7 was a 64 bit system, I'm curious as to why it shows 32?


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No Hang Dog this, it's somin' else.-bcdedit-1.png  
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