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Windows 7: Diff.between "available" and "free" physical memory?


23 Jun 2013   #21

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

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Well, I have Windows 7 64bit and 4GB of RAM 512MB being used by on board Radeon and often have FREE memory around 15-20 and sometimes single digits but what I can' figure out (if anyone can shed some light on this) is why if I have anywhere from about 900MB -over 1GB, like 1200MB or so, I am getting constant 'Out of Memory' warnings while running Google Chrome and also the old 'Low memory' Telling my I should close 'The Program' and then it usually list 'Google Chrome' or 'Desktop Gadgets' or some offending, memory hogging program. I don't see why it would warn me I am running out of memory consider I still have around or close to 30% of the memory still available.

This problem has driven me crazy ever since I have installed Windows.
More information is needed.
Posing a screenshot of Task Manager -Performance tab when the problem occurs would be a big help.

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12 Jul 2013   #22

Win7 Enterprise 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Richman1 View Post
I am getting constant 'Out of Memory' warnings while running Google Chrome
I've see in other forums that this is about the release of "free" memory in Windows 7, Google Chrome seems to be in the black list of applications that don't play fair and don't release this kind of memory as they should.
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12 Jul 2013   #23

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Windows 7 Ult. x64 Windows 8.1 x64 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Tri-Boot
 
 

Open Chrome as normal, the press CTRL+SHIFT+ESC to open the Chrome TaskManager. Now examine the memory being used to see if the problem lies with Chrome.

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95672?hl=en
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13 Jul 2013   #24

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Thanks to all who replied

LMILLER7 - I'll have to reproduce the problem and then post a scrn shot of the task manager for you as I have been keeping programs closed and trying to keep open browser tabs to a minimum so that it DOES NOT occur.

Golden - CTRL+SHIFT+ESC did not open any Chrome task manager

To all - I think if I remember correctly that I had the same problem when I was running 64 bit Waterfox exclusively for browsing the web. It wouldn't be hard to believe that Chrome doesn't play well with releasing memory but then if Windows Task Manager says that there is still around 1GB of memory available that I shouldn't be getting 'Out of Memory' warnings as from what I understand is that 'Available' memory is as ready to use as 'Free' memory and most forums state that since Windows 7 loads frequently used programs for faster launching, your Free memory should always be either in the single or no more than double digit range.
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13 Jul 2013   #25

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Richman1 View Post
Golden - CTRL+SHIFT+ESC did not open any Chrome task manager
Try SHIFT+ESC or the long way:

1. Click the Chrome settings icon Name:  1.PNG
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2. Now navigate to Tools > Task manager

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14 Jul 2013   #26

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

WOW ..... CTRL+SHIFT+ESC brought up Windows Taks manager after I rebooted but SHIFT+ESC brought up the Google TM. I didn't know that Google had this feature and is very helpful. Thanks, i will have to look at this closer.

What I find interesting is that I had Chrome close several times because of low memory. Whn close I had in excess of 2GB available. After opening it would use almost all of that and leave around 150-200MB available. After rebooting and opening Chrome to the last state with the same 120 tabs that were open before and adding up what is in the Google Task Manager I find it is only using 309MB and has the system still has 1658MB available. It appears that as the system stays up over many days that there is some kind of memory leak or chrome isn't releasing memory it doesn't need anymore.

Now my question is, what use is google chrome? For the first year or two of its inception it offered faster browsing with its smaller code and footprint. But I just today opened IE 9 and it opened web pages much faster than chrome. So now, with google's mega conglomerate advertising super machine with the change to their adwords and such (which is probably what is slowing it down) I see it as a once was of a 'had been' and think I am going back to Waterfox as my browser of choice.
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14 Jul 2013   #27

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Sorry, I don't have these problems with Chrome......its way faster than IE for me

The only thing I can suggest is to examine the services and programs in your startup.
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14 Jul 2013   #28

windows 7 home 64bit
 
 

Hi there ... Part of your problem is you have far to many Tabs open .. Cannot imagine why you would need as many open .. Cut down on the Tabs it will use less memory .. And don't leave your computer on for days on end
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24 Aug 2013   #29

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
Sorry, I don't have these problems with Chrome......its way faster than IE for me

The only thing I can suggest is to examine the services and programs in your startup.
Golden, Thanks for the sudgestion as I try to check these periodically but sometimes it skips my mind and haven't looked at them in a while.
However, Startup tab under msconfig has nothing in it that I didn't put there.
Services only has one entry that I don't recognize which is "QosServM.exe" but upon research I found that this executable is usually linked with Avaya IP softphone which software I did install so that doesn't appear to be out of the ordinary and I can't find anything else in Services that is out of the ordinary.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by maxie View Post
Hi there ... Part of your problem is you have far to many Tabs open .. Cannot imagine why you would need as many open .. Cut down on the Tabs it will use less memory .. And don't leave your computer on for days on end
Maxie, Are you serious? I do not agree with this as a person should be able to do with a computer anything that a computer is capable of doing without resulting in resigning himself to a mode of limited use. In the days when I was running Windows XP and we didn't even have "Tabbed" browsing (which is supposed to be easier on system resources) I could routinely have 200 browser WINDOWS open without having memory issues and that was all with 384MB or RAM. Oh and the reason why people have more than the 2-3 browser tabs that you apparently only allow open is that its a browser capability and when one is doing research and are constantly referring back and forth it prevents them from having to open and close tabs 150 times. Shutting down a computer every day? This is also not necessary as I have worked in corporate environments and those pc's rarely get shut down and are on 24/7. I have had my own computer on for 9 months without being shut down and no slowing down or other issues. Of course I am always on the machine but the only reason a pc would need to be shut down is something reacquiring a reboot or to reset poorly designed software that may have issues and need the system reset. But then that isn't the pc's fault, its the software designer's.
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07 Oct 2013   #30

Windows 7 Enterprise 64
 
 
Page faults also important

On my Lenovo T420i, task manager shows:
Total: 3979, Cached: 2156, Available: 2105, Free: 1 (MB)
Everything seems to slow right down if I try to print something from Adobe Reader or Word.

If I run System Internals process explorer, I see the page faults jump from < 500 to about 27,000, so I'm guessing that if I add another 4Gb of memory I will create a lot more free memory and reduce the amount of page faults/swapping...which I presume is at the root of the slowdowns.
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