DeFraggler vs Win7 defrag?

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  1. Posts : 116
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       #31

    I need to find another hobby before I do something serious to my computer. I installed Auslogics and MyDefrag to see how I liked them. I already had Windows defrag and Defraggler.

    I only analyzed with Auslogics, but I liked the way it was set up.

    I then used MyDefrag. I ran one of their scripts to "sort by size", then a defragger script.

    I then analyzed with the other defraggers. Microsoft showed it still 2% fragmented, Auslogics showed it 3%, and Defraggler shows it a friggin 46% fragmented.

    Plus it increased my used HD space from about 26GB to 50.3GB.

    Gonna get this reversed before MyDefrag doubles it up on me again, and probably stick with Auslogics and Windows. I need to start collecting stamps or something.

    And yes, my computer was and is working great, so NO, I have no logical reason for trying to make something work better that is already working fine. So please don't ask.
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       #32

    nailgunner said:
    I need to find another hobby before I do something serious to my computer. I installed Auslogics and MyDefrag to see how I liked them. I already had Windows defrag and Defraggler.

    I only analyzed with Auslogics, but I liked the way it was set up.

    I then used MyDefrag. I ran one of their scripts to "sort by size", then a defragger script.

    I then analyzed with the other defraggers. Microsoft showed it still 2% fragmented, Auslogics showed it 3%, and Defraggler shows it a friggin 46% fragmented.

    Plus it increased my used HD space from about 26GB to 50.3GB.

    Gonna get this reversed before MyDefrag doubles it up on me again, and probably stick with Auslogics and Windows. I need to start collecting stamps or something.

    And yes, my computer was and is working great, so NO, I have no logical reason for trying to make something work better that is already working fine. So please don't ask.
    defraggler increased your hardrive space because it is not shadow copy aware. The shadow copy (VSS service) mistakes your moving a files blocks around as modifying the file so copies what it thinks is the old file data to the shadow copy - thus duplicating data it doesn't need to be copied, an thus using up hard drive space - and shadow copy space. Note this shadow copy space is your restore points. Eventually you will exceed the storage limit you set for your restore points and you will start losing them.

    You are crazy if you use defraggler on windows 7.

    - Gene
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  3. Posts : 116
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       #33

    Well to be clear, it wasn't defraggler that increased it, it was Mydefrag.
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  4. Posts : 1,251
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       #34

    nailgunner said:
    Plus it increased my used HD space from about 26GB to 50.3GB.
    nailgunner said:
    Well to be clear, it wasn't defraggler that increased it, it was Mydefrag.
    It wasn't actually My Defrag that increased the amount of data on your HDD it was System Restore making restore points while the files are being moved according to your choice of scripts by MyDefrag, but not to worry Disc Cleanup can almost instantly remove all but the most recent restore point. What prompted you to choose the 'sort by size' script? As I said it was the 'sort by last access' that helped my programs start up so much faster.

    ~Maxx~
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  5. Posts : 116
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       #35

    OK...it happened when I ran MyDefrag. I have since returned my HD to it's 25GB size. Would prefer not to say exactly how I did it, , so I don't get scolded for that, but it's all good now.


    edit
    I actually tried a couple of the scripts just to test it, and size what the last one I tried.
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  6. Posts : 1,251
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       #36

    nailgunner said:
    OK...it happened when I ran MyDefrag. I have since returned my HD to it's 25GB size. Would prefer not to say exactly how I did it, , so I don't get scolded for that, but it's all good now.
    I'm glad to hear that things are back as they were now. I set my System Restore space back so far on my Win 7 computer that MyDefrag does not prompt System Restore to increase the amount of Restore Points as it did on your computer. In Vista I used to simply just turn System Restore off while My Defrag placed the files in the order that I had instructed it to so this wouldn't happen.

    ~Maxx~
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  7. Posts : 116
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       #37

    And in Defraggler it was that whole extra system restore file activity that was making it show 46% fragmentation.

    I had been adding and deleting a lot of trialware photo editing programs and moving a lot of pictures around, so I was defragging on a fairly regular basis. I'm done now, so I think I will leave well enough alone.
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  8. Posts : 116
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       #38

    Well again, to be clear, I was running Defraggler first, and it was slow as crap, which was why I started using Windows defrag and wondered if the 13 passes was unusual.
    Both Auslogics and MyDefrag were quick on the defragging. I like Auslogics layout better so will probably stick with that.
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  9. Posts : 1,251
    Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
       #39

    nailgunner said:
    I'm done now, so I think I will leave well enough alone.
    That sounds like a good plan. In the future if you ever feel the need to improve the speed which programs open on your Win 7 computer the My Defrag 'sort by last access' script can make it happen.

    The reason that I know this is that I did benchmarks both before and after the most frequently used programs were moved to the fastest part of the disk and as I said the largest 1 GB program now opens in 3.42 seconds which is 42% faster than it did before My Defrag moved it and the other files I use most frequently to the outside of the disk for quick access and improved read times.

    ~Maxx~
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  10. Posts : 1,251
    Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
       #40

    nailgunner said:
    Well again, to be clear, I was running Defraggler first, and it was slow as crap, which was why I started using Windows defrag and wondered if the 13 passes was unusual. Both Auslogics and MyDefrag were quick on the defragging. I like Auslogics layout better so will probably stick with that.
    Gregrocker is also a huge fan of Auslogics software and for good reason...

    ~Maxx~
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