Faster Disks are the BEST way of increasing Computer performance
Hi all
Assuming you have sufficient RAM and are not requiring the ultimate gaming experience the BEST way of improving your Computer performance is to install the FASTEST hard disks you can afford -- (or SSD's - but they are a bit more expensive).
Even on a humble Netbook swapping the standard 160 HDD for a faster 320 or 500 GB HDD made a SIGNIFICANT improvement in response time, application loading etc etc.
(You can keep the 160 HDD as an external HDD for say music/DVD's etc etc. An enclosure to convert it to a "Normal" USB ext HDD is available at any PC store -- very cheap so you don't have to throw the disk away).
My humble Netbook (ASUS LO 521) is now nearly as fast as my normal (Heavy) laptop.
Most stuff typical users do on a computer are highly I/O bound which means assuming there is enough RAM - around 2GB is good enough for typical use - then faster DISKS will yield much better performance than a QUAD CPU etc.
However most people usually ignore this advice and load machines up with expensive CPU's and loads of RAM and are then disappointed because performance improvments turn out to be quite small compared with the investment.
Note if you use Virtual Machines or are a Gamer then CPU and RAM is also important -- however my advice here is to the 100,000's of users who are just surfing, emailing, doing office type apps and playing multimedia (not CREATING it BTW) is to upgrade your HDD's to the fastest you can afford.
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Partition alignment should go by hand of any hard disk, I've seen corei7 computers lag really bad because brands like Dell didnt align the partitions before preinstalling the OS
OS Microsoft Windows 8 Professional CPU AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor Motherboard ECS A790GXM-AD3 Memory 16.00 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB Sound Card (1) C-Media PCI Audio Device (2) AMD HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG LS192WS Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 @ 32bit color
Keyboard Dell SK-8115 Mouse Razer Copperhead PSU Corsair HX620 Case Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 + Artic Silver 3 on CPU/GPU Hard Drives (1) ST31000524AS SATA Disk Device (2) ST3500413AS SATA Disk Device AHCI mode enabled.
Jimbo, well said. I agree.
My next upgrade will be a beastly SSD (when I get money).
Quote: Originally Posted by OldMX
Partition alignment should go by hand of any hard disk, I've seen corei7 computers lag really bad because brands like Dell didnt align the partitions before preinstalling the OS
System Manufacturer/Model Number Hera OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 CPU Intel i5-2500k Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro Memory 2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600 Graphics Card NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 24" Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard Razer Tarantula Mouse Razer Lachesis PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W Case Cooler Master Haf 932 Cooling Fans Hard Drives G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II Internet Speed not fast enough
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Hard Drives TOSHIBA MK6459GSXP 600GB x 5400RPM (SATA)
I agree with faster disk being the key to better performance. I replaced the 5400rpm 160G hdd in my Acer Aspire One netbook with a 64G ssd and apps open much quicker than they did before. I also maxed out my RAM at 1.5G which didn't make much of a difference at all.
Adding more RAM won't automatically make things faster. It only helps when the mix of apps you nromally use causes your machine to start swapping memory to disk. In that situation you will see a performance boost by adding more RAM.
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Keyboard IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986 Mouse Microsoft PSU Antec Case Antec 100 Cooling CM 212+ Hard Drives 128G SSD OS; 1.5T & 2T Data on Desktop, 320G for laptop Internet Speed 1.5M down 1.2M up :-( Other Info Also have an Acer Aspire netbook, a home-built AMD Dual core (Minecraft server) and home-built Pent 4 all running Win 7. Also have various machines running XP, Win Server 2K, Win Server 2003, Linux and DOS. I think I have a problem...
I dont have a Dell at hand right now to take a screenshot fo the misaligned partition, but defrag a 1TB disk with an unligned partition is a pain in the a$$ because it takes a lot longer than under a correctly aligned disk.
OS Microsoft Windows 8 Professional CPU AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor Motherboard ECS A790GXM-AD3 Memory 16.00 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB Sound Card (1) C-Media PCI Audio Device (2) AMD HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG LS192WS Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 @ 32bit color
Keyboard Dell SK-8115 Mouse Razer Copperhead PSU Corsair HX620 Case Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 + Artic Silver 3 on CPU/GPU Hard Drives (1) ST31000524AS SATA Disk Device (2) ST3500413AS SATA Disk Device AHCI mode enabled.
Heh, anyone with an SSD can confirm that. And by "fast" it really means "faster acess time" the read/write speed increase is nice but not nearly as important as the acess time. The 0.01 ms (or less) average acess time of an SSD is what really gives it it's oomph, and swapping one of those into a system, even the fastest available today will make it seem like you trippled your CPU. EVERYHTING you do, every button click is /instantanious/ response. A clean (no plugins) photoshop CS5 loads in 2.5 seconds, compared to 10-20 (or longer) normally. Everything is that fast
Ancient (like roman era or something?) mechanical HD tech is /the/ thing holding back overall performance on modern hardware (Well and has for the last 15 or more years actually).
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Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode. Internet Speed 15kbs down 4.5kbps up Other Info WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
Hard disk 7.7
I dont have a Dell at hand right now to take a screenshot fo the misaligned partition, but defrag a 1TB disk with an unligned partition is a pain in the a$$ because it takes a lot longer than under a correctly aligned disk.
Interesting.... Thanks for the link.
I don't know if this would apply to SSDs or not though.
System Manufacturer/Model Number Hera OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 CPU Intel i5-2500k Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro Memory 2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600 Graphics Card NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 24" Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard Razer Tarantula Mouse Razer Lachesis PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W Case Cooler Master Haf 932 Cooling Fans Hard Drives G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II Internet Speed not fast enough
Absolutely true! I find it so hilarious when people say "I bought a great new laptop, configured it with the most expensive i7 and it's ultra-fast" and when I ask about the harddrive I get "ahh, yeah it's really big - 500GB..... 540RPM" Great speed - that CPU will never really use it's power
First (and still the only) thing I upgraded on my notebook was to put the fastest 7200 RPM HDD I could find and get rid of the 5400RPM. One day a SSD will come but I am sure the prizes will drop dramatically in the next few months and I don't want to be the idiot who spent a fortune on a storage space so small that no one would ever want to buy second hand
Will wait at least until the prices are 1€/GB Until then - 500GB with a reasonable speed do the trick good enough
Other then that it is so obvious what bottlenecks your system - Every time I unzip/unrar something I notice my i5 CPU is only 30-40% loaded...... why? because my HDD is 100% loaded and can't take any more ) So i7 on a standard HDD?? Very clever!!
OS Microsoft Windows 8 Professional CPU AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor Motherboard ECS A790GXM-AD3 Memory 16.00 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB Sound Card (1) C-Media PCI Audio Device (2) AMD HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG LS192WS Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 @ 32bit color
Keyboard Dell SK-8115 Mouse Razer Copperhead PSU Corsair HX620 Case Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 + Artic Silver 3 on CPU/GPU Hard Drives (1) ST31000524AS SATA Disk Device (2) ST3500413AS SATA Disk Device AHCI mode enabled.