Backing up to a sandisk 8 gb cruzer

PattiChati · Dec 5, 2010

How do I create folders on the disk and how can it take 22 hrs to copy just 3 gb of documents. There are only about 12 things in teh file. Thanks you guys, you have been great. And I also need a backup program that supports incremental updates - can you explain to me what that is?

parabellum · Dec 5, 2010

For the first one, right click then new folder, for the last look here:

Best Free Backup Program

For the file transfer, it depends on the file but it shouldn't take that long. Does the time eventually reduce?

whs · Dec 5, 2010

1. To create a folder you right click on the stick (in the left pane of Explorer), go to New > Folder. Then give it a name.

2. The 22 hours is unreal. Check the File System of the drive (in Properties) . It should be Fat32. I wonder also whether the ports are running on USB 1.1. in lieu of USB 2.0. But that is not easy to find out unless you get a message that the stick would perform faster in USB 2.0. Anything with USB ports is messy - since ages.

3. Incremental or differential backups are typically used by imaging programs. Free Paragon would be a candidate. The imaging has the added advantage that it compresses the data and thus uses less space.

PattiChati · Dec 6, 2010

I think stuff is getting backed up on the drive - finally - but how do I create folders. Thanks so much

parabellum · Dec 6, 2010

Either as WHS suggested or right click and select new -> folder when a file or folder isn't selected.

PattiChati · Jan 14, 2011

I could not just do a regular backup with my usb. So I just put it in and just dragged the info I was interested in into it. Can anyone tell me why "documents" took forever and so much space? I just wanted my letters and there are hardly in there.

whs · Jan 14, 2011

You are doing something wrong. The dragging technique is not the way of proper operation. It can give you all kinds of results. Use this: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/516-context-menu-add-copy-folder-move-folder.html Then you know that you get a proper result.

Also, is your USB stick formatted in Fat32? If not, format it to Fat32 (quick format). NTFS on sticks is a lot slower and wears the stick a lot more.

PattiChati · Jan 14, 2011

Thank you for every thing you said, but I have no idea what you said. I did not drag the information like I said I did, I right clicked and sent to usb drive.

whs · Jan 14, 2011

PattiChati said:
Thank you for every thing you said, but I have no idea what you said. I did not drag the information like I said I did, I right clicked and sent to usb drive.

OK, that clarifies that one. "Send to" is a copy operation and should work.

If it takes very long, it could be only because your stick is very slow (and many cheap sticks have a dismal transfer rate which you can test with HD Tune), and/or the stick is formatted in NTFS (which you will see in Properties of the stick).

James Colbert · Jan 14, 2011

If your budget isn't too tight, here's a very reasonably priced 8GB stick that has a 'speed class rating' of 200x. I don't know what that translates too in real world write speed, but I have a few, and copies are much, much faster than my Cruzer. 5 star rating with 1200 reviewers (you should be able to find some write speeds in the user reviews). It's $18.

James

Edit:

Sorry, forgot link:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220252

whs · Jan 14, 2011

James Colbert said:
If your budget isn't too tight, here's a very reasonably priced 8GB stick that has a 'speed class rating' of 200x. I don't know what that translates too in real world write speed, but I have a few, and copies are much, much faster than my Cruzer. 5 star rating with 1200 reviewers (you should be able to find some write speeds in the user reviews). It's $18.

James

James, you forgot the link.

James Colbert · Jan 14, 2011

whs said:
James Colbert said:

If your budget isn't too tight, here's a very reasonably priced 8GB stick that has a 'speed class rating' of 200x. I don't know what that translates too in real world write speed, but I have a few, and copies are much, much faster than my Cruzer. 5 star rating with 1200 reviewers (you should be able to find some write speeds in the user reviews). It's $18.

James

Click to expand...

James, you forgot the link.

I surely did. Thanks, whs.

Here's the link (also ammended in the original post):

Newegg.com - Patriot Xporter XT Boost 8GB Flash Drive (USB 2.0 Portable) Model PEF8GUSB

James

whs · Jan 15, 2011

Thanks for the link I really don't know what 200x means. I always go back to a German big mail order house (similar to Newegg). There they always show the Read/Write speeds. I really wonder why the US sites cannot do that. In Germany they would not do a lot of business. People want to know what they are buing. I even called Newegg for the data. They told me that they are just a distributer and have no technical data.

James Colbert · Jan 15, 2011

whs said:
Thanks for the link I really don't know what 200x means. I always go back to a German big mail order house (similar to Newegg). There they always show the Read/Write speeds. I really wonder why the US sites cannot do that. In Germany they would not do a lot of business. People want to know what they are buing. I even called Newegg for the data. They told me that they are just a distributer and have no technical data.

Thanks for the heads up...as for the 200x, Patriot interprets that as 30mbps read speed, as can be seen here:

Patriot Memory - Products

They don't really specify write speed

, but here's a screenshot of a Newegg review that states 20 mbps write. There are likely more peppered throughout the reviews.

I will say that these keys out-perform any I've had to date.

James

whs · Jan 15, 2011

Well, 30/20 is not bad. Many I have seen are more like 15/8. Best is to test it with HD Tune. Select the right drive and let it run to the end (takes a couple of minutes). Then you get the access time too. Then run your HDD and compare. The stick should be faster in access time (like 1ms versus 15ms) but slower in read/write.

PattiChati · Jan 20, 2011

I am confused, what happened to my original question of the usb cruzer not backing up. Windows will back up for a while and then quit. What I am doing now is every couple of days just "send to external drive". Hope that is going to work.

whs · Jan 20, 2011

Remind me - what program are you using for the backup?

Tepid · Jan 22, 2011

Again, I want to reiterate that USB Flash Drives are not optimal for backing up data, especially large amounts of data.
Flash Drives should be viewed in the same light as Floppy Disks.
Good for transporting data, bad for storage.

Yes, your millage may vary. But, still not as good an idea as a USB Hard Drive.

Also, USB HDD's have much faster transfer rates than a lot of USB Flash Drives.
Yes, they have gotten better. But, some are quite expensive.
When you can get a 320G External USB Drive for around 70$?
That is the better deal. Especially in the long run.

PattiChati · Jan 23, 2011

usb backup

whs said:
Remind me - what program are you using for the backup?

I am just putting in the usb and copy and paste those items I want such as pictures, documents, etc. Not ideal I suppose, but don't really understand what else to do. Windows claim they have a backup right on their computer, but mine starts it and it stops after 2 minutes and says put it in a disk, it doesn't like usb.

whs · Jan 23, 2011

I think you are doing the right thing - copying what you want to save on the stick. Windows backup is iffy. It probably did not like the Fat32 formatting because it groups the stuff together to blocks that can exceed 4GBs - and for those you need NTFS. But do not reformat your stick. Fat32 is the best formatting for sticks in terms of speed and wear and tear. Just keep copying the folders one by one. At least you know what you have and restoration is simple.

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