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Windows 7: Your New Christmas Computer

14 Dec 2010   #21
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I agree with Maxxwire and the demos and trials and bloat reduce the cost of the PC, as the vendors pay to have their garbage installed...which drives down the overall price of the computer.

As for not getting an install disc, I think the pre-made mfg's want to keep the installation the same across the board for support purposes. This way, they know what to expect when a customer calls during that warranty period. If they instead provide an install disc and let you "have at it", you may not get the drivers working properly and run into support issues that otherwise might have never been a problem and prompted a call in the first place. I think for a great number of home users, a disc to put it back to exactly the way it was when brand new is what they would prefer. We are the exception.


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15 Dec 2010   #22
DustSailor

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
[...] although I have never understood how having additional unused software installed can actually slow a computer down at the same time keeping a full set of services many of which are unneeded yet do run from time to time to collect data, etc. are said by many to have absolutely no impact on computer performance in Win 7.

~Maxx~
I second that. I have disabled a number of services that were reported as unneeded. If anything, i have noticed a decrease in performance, although it may not necessarily stem from disabling those services, per say.
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15 Dec 2010   #23
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

[QUOTE=DustSailor;1129182]
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I second that. I have disabled a number of services that were reported as unneeded. If anything, i have noticed a decrease in performance, although it may not necessarily stem from disabling those services, per say.
You may be right that the slowdown may not stem from disabling those services because my Win 7 x64 computer now starts 4 seconds faster because I disabled several services that were starting at each boot and running throughout the entire session consuming system resources, but then again I don't know which services you disabled.

~Maxx~
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15 Dec 2010   #24
DustSailor

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
You may be right that the slowdown may not stem from disabling those services because my Win 7 x64 computer now starts 4 seconds faster because I disabled several services that were starting at each boot and running throughout the entire session consuming system resources, but then again I don't know which services you disabled.

~Maxx~
It may have sped up my system, but... and I'm not sure why, my welcome screen takes a straight 20 seconds before my desktop is shown. But this is not the place for this, and no one with the answer has responded to my post on the problem.
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15 Dec 2010   #25
Dinesh

Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
 
 

I think I'll need your suggestion as my laptop is broken and might have to buy a new one.
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15 Dec 2010   #26
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
I second that. I have disabled a number of services that were reported as unneeded. If anything, i have noticed a decrease in performance, although it may not necessarily stem from disabling those services, per say.
What were the exact listings you unchecked in msconfig? Google file extension to be sure.

Nothing which can slow your system is available to be unchecked in msconfig, only programs and updaters which are freeloaders on your startup, RAM, CPU and can spy on you. It must be something else.

Run a full scan with updated Malwarebytes and your AV.

Study the Performance Log to Google repeat errors text and ID#. Go Computer>Properties, click WEI score link, look for issues cued at top of Tools page, Generate a System Health Report.

Type "solutions" in Start Search box to check to see if any have been sent for problems reported and not. Always report problems.
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15 Dec 2010   #27
bigboi972

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

whats the best way to find all the bloatware thats on my pc is it in the install/uninstall program menu as if i was about to uninstall a program
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15 Dec 2010   #28
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigboi972 View Post
whats the best way to find all the bloatware thats on my pc is it in the install/uninstall program menu as if i was about to uninstall a program
How to Clean up Bloatware Install
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16 Dec 2010   #29
DustSailor

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
I second that. I have disabled a number of services that were reported as unneeded. If anything, i have noticed a decrease in performance, although it may not necessarily stem from disabling those services, per say.
What were the exact listings you unchecked in msconfig? Google file extension to be sure.

Nothing which can slow your system is available to be unchecked in msconfig, only programs and updaters which are freeloaders on your startup, RAM, CPU and can spy on you. It must be something else.
I didn't do anything in msconfig, rather I disabled select services recommended by Blackviper, but again I don't think this slowed my computer, it most likely is something else entirely. I've been using Blackviper for a long time and I researched everything I disabled, so I'm not in the red in that area.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Run a full scan with updated Malwarebytes and your AV.
Both found nothing (MSE AV)
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Study the Performance Log to Google repeat errors text and ID#. Go Computer>Properties, click WEI score link, look for issues cued at top of Tools page, Generate a System Health Report.
Will do
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Type "solutions" in Start Search box to check to see if any have been sent for problems reported and not. Always report problems.
Done, anything it has found in the past has been applied. I appreciate your troubleshooting my problem.
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16 Dec 2010   #30
gregrocker

 

Dusty -

Many tech enthusiasts lived by Black Viper's service edits in XP and early bloated Vista, however MS made this unnecessary during development of Win7 by setting anything that doesn't have to be running to Manual on fast triggers.

During Win7 beta, we found that turning off any services which were left had unexpected consequences. There aren't really any remaining services that need to be turned off to gain back performance.

Win7 is also already too lean and optimized to stand much tweaking without it coming back to bite you. Just use normal System Settings. If you need to edit Graphics effects, for example, it will tell you so at the top of the Advanced Tools page you've already visited.

Effectively Win7 has become the Black Viper.
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