| Windows 7: Showing how little I understand! |
13 Dec 2010
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Showing how little I understand! I have begun experimenting with Paragon Backup Home Edition as it has more features than the Macrium Free. It also has a ton of stuff I don't understand and may never use.
I have started out with the Smartbackup wizard, just to get a clean copy of my system. I am attempting to get a Macrium like System Image of my system drive.
The program asks what I want to backup, and unlike Macrium which showed the drive and the system reserve, Paragon shows Basic Hard Disk Track (with correct model identification) size is disk full size off the My Computer, then as a tree off the First Hard Disk it shows Master Boot Record Type:MBR Size:0 bytes.
A second branch of the Basic Hard DisK Track, it show System Reserved Type:Primary File System:NTFS Size:100 MB.
The third and final branch off the Basic Hard Disk Trach is the Drive Name and letter designation ( C: ) Type:Primary File System:NTFS Size:Full Disk size.
All of the above branches can be checked or unchecked for backup.
My question is if I want a bootable C: drive with all my programs and data and running good, what of the above items do I check to be Backed Up? This has me confused as usual or I wouldn't be bothering you helpful people. thanks for any assistance.
glennc | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom-II X4 965 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 Sound Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo Monitor(s) Displays LG Electronics W1943 Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard Acer Mouse Logitech PSU Ultra LSP 750 Case Ultra XBlaster Cooling 2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan Hard Drives C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 1 TB Caviar Green SATA Internet Speed 6 MB |
13 Dec 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 Space Coast of Florida |
Backup all three. That allows you to replace the hard drive when (not if) it fails and give you the same exact setup you have now.
The first two you only need to do once. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Precision 370 OS Windows 7 Pro X64 CPU Intel Pentium 4 Dual LP 3.4Ghz Memory 4GB DDR PC2-5200 ECC Graphics Card NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400 Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP 22" w2207 LCD Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Hard Drives 300GB Maxtor 6L300RD PATA
128GB Kingston SV200S3128G SSD (boot)
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA Internet Speed Cable via Road Runner 2MB Upload, 20MB Download |
13 Dec 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ztruker Backup all three. That allows you to replace the hard drive when (not if) it fails and give you the same exact setup you have now.
The first two you only need to do once. Hello Ztruker,
Thanks for answering the call for for help. Since clicking on the box of the Basic Hard Disk 1 causes all the other boxes to be checkmarked also. That would be backing up all the drive and I could do a System Restore with that. Meaning I could use the recovery disk and Restore that backup and it would get be back to the exact running state of the machine at the time of the backup? I'm a little slow and wan't to completely understand.
If I am reading it correctly you also state that after keeping the above backup, I could do incremental,differential or full backups of just the data, not the System Reserve or the MBR/First Hard Disk Track?
Thanks for your response and more-so if you can water it down for me.
glennc | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom-II X4 965 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 Sound Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo Monitor(s) Displays LG Electronics W1943 Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard Acer Mouse Logitech PSU Ultra LSP 750 Case Ultra XBlaster Cooling 2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan Hard Drives C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 1 TB Caviar Green SATA Internet Speed 6 MB |
14 Dec 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 Space Coast of Florida |
Yes, that is correct. Once you have all three then you only need to continue to backup the boot partition. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Precision 370 OS Windows 7 Pro X64 CPU Intel Pentium 4 Dual LP 3.4Ghz Memory 4GB DDR PC2-5200 ECC Graphics Card NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400 Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP 22" w2207 LCD Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Hard Drives 300GB Maxtor 6L300RD PATA
128GB Kingston SV200S3128G SSD (boot)
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA Internet Speed Cable via Road Runner 2MB Upload, 20MB Download |
14 Dec 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
The only time you may want to reconsider MBR and System reserved is if you have done some repartitioning work to your HDD. MBR contains the disk partition table and system reserved contains the BCD. I also think you should have at least one backup of the current MBR and system reserved. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
14 Dec 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ztruker Yes, that is correct. Once you have all three then you only need to continue to backup the boot partition. Hello Ztruker,
Sorry for the density! Define the boot partition , PLEASE!
Thank you Sir.
glennc | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom-II X4 965 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 Sound Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo Monitor(s) Displays LG Electronics W1943 Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard Acer Mouse Logitech PSU Ultra LSP 750 Case Ultra XBlaster Cooling 2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan Hard Drives C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 1 TB Caviar Green SATA Internet Speed 6 MB |
14 Dec 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by mjf The only time you may want to reconsider MBR and System reserved is if you have done some repartitioning work to your HDD. MBR contains the disk partition table and system reserved contains the BCD. I also think you should have at least one backup of the current MBR and system reserved. Howdy mjf,
Thanks for joining my learning experience. So far if you don't use big words or acronyms I might figure it out. I got everything you said except the "BCD". Might you define that in less expert terms, also Please?
BTW I don't do anything other than take up disk space if I continue to backup everything? I am currently trying to get my mind around how to make incremental or differential backups with this software.
glennc | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom-II X4 965 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 Sound Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo Monitor(s) Displays LG Electronics W1943 Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard Acer Mouse Logitech PSU Ultra LSP 750 Case Ultra XBlaster Cooling 2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan Hard Drives C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 1 TB Caviar Green SATA Internet Speed 6 MB |
14 Dec 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 Space Coast of Florida |
By boot partition I meant the partition Windows 7 is on, normally C:. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Precision 370 OS Windows 7 Pro X64 CPU Intel Pentium 4 Dual LP 3.4Ghz Memory 4GB DDR PC2-5200 ECC Graphics Card NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400 Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP 22" w2207 LCD Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Hard Drives 300GB Maxtor 6L300RD PATA
128GB Kingston SV200S3128G SSD (boot)
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA Internet Speed Cable via Road Runner 2MB Upload, 20MB Download |
14 Dec 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by glennc 
Quote: Originally Posted by mjf The only time you may want to reconsider MBR and System reserved is if you have done some repartitioning work to your HDD. MBR contains the disk partition table and system reserved contains the BCD. I also think you should have at least one backup of the current MBR and system reserved. Howdy mjf,
Thanks for joining my learning experience. So far if you don't use big words or acronyms I might figure it out. I got everything you said except the "BCD". Might you define that in less expert terms, also Please?
BTW I don't do anything other than take up disk space if I continue to backup everything? I am currently trying to get my mind around how to make incremental or differential backups with this software.
glennc Acronym soup. BCD = Boot configuration data = important boot data
A bit like the old boot.ini file.
The only point then really is that the MBR and 100MB system reserved partition generally don't change. But one good copy is good to have. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
15 Dec 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ztruker By boot partition I meant the partition Windows 7 is on, normally C:. Hey Ztruker,
Tanx. I had an idea that is what you meant but as they say a little knowledge is dangerous. Now can say, assuming by synapses respond accordingly, that I know!!
Appreciate it dude.
glennc | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom-II X4 965 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 Sound Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo Monitor(s) Displays LG Electronics W1943 Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard Acer Mouse Logitech PSU Ultra LSP 750 Case Ultra XBlaster Cooling 2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan Hard Drives C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
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