64bit 4GB (3.25 Usable). Waste of an update?

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  1. Posts : 60
    Win 7 SP1
       #11

    I had a similar situation with an older Gigabyte motherboard.

    I was able to install 4gb on the board, but I was only able to see 3gb on it due to other hardware limitations - older chipsets and ports. It was a transition board that had both SATA and IDE interfaces on the board, IIRC.

    Because of the limitations, the board was unable to access the upper portion of the memory - it needed to keep that part reserved for the hardware.

    I'd check your motherboard manual and/or website to see if you have a similar situation.


    T
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  2. Posts : 8,135
    Windows 10 64 bit
       #12

    Good point. If all you have is 4 GB of RAM there is no reason to install a 64 bit OS, unless you plan on adding more RAM.
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  3. Posts : 1,996
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
       #13

    You can try:
    Msconfig>Boot>Advanced options...>
    Check the Maximum memory box.
    Make sure it's show 4096.
    If it doesn't, use the up arrow to increase it.
    OK out and restart your PC.
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  4. Posts : 6,349
    Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
       #14

    Most of us run 4GB with Win7 64bit just fine with plenty left over.

    2GB I would agree.
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  5. Posts : 4,466
    Windows 10 Education 64 bit
       #15

    I'm running 4 gigs with windows 7x64. My video card has another gig of dedicated RAM on it. If I was running 7x32 that gig would subtract from my 4 gigs and I'd only be able to use 3 gig of it. Running 7x64 lets me use it all. Seemed like a no-brainer to me.
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  6. Posts : 5,941
    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
       #16

    Hi there
    Running in 64 bit mode offers other advantages - especially for things like Photoshop -- Instruction time is shorter etc etc.

    The RAM advantage really needs more than 4GB when using a 64 bit OS before you will see anything large in available address space.- but using all the RAM doesn't necessarily mean that your system is running badly.

    There's a lot more to measuring OS performance than just looking at the available RAM.


    Cheers

    Jim
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  7. Posts : 296
    Windows 7 Professional
       #17

    No but seriously, can 32-bit even see and use all of 4GB. I thought there was a limitation of only 3.25-3.5GB with 32-bit OS kernel or something?

    I remember trying to choose between 32 and 64-bit for installation and I ultimately chose 64-bit cause it can use all 4GB instead of just 3.5GB (512mb wasted) at max in 32-bit. If I'm wrong and they somehow fixed up 32-bit (not likely, they would have done it Vista before 7 was released) then I'd love to go back to 32-bit. More easy on programs and games compatibility (especially older games) for me.

    Let me know,
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  8. Posts : 4,466
    Windows 10 Education 64 bit
       #18

    32 bit windows can only address up to 4 gigs max. Included in that 4 gig is any address space used by other components such as your video card. If you have a dedicated video card with 512 megs of ram that subtracts from the 4 gig of address space. You would end up with 3.5 gigs of usable RAM, thats all windows can map into the remaining address space. Thats shall we a Cliff's notes explanation of it. I think if you follow some of the links posted in this thread you'll get a better explanation of why it is the way it is.
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  9. Posts : 7,878
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #19

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    Running in 64 bit mode offers other advantages - especially for things like Photoshop -- Instruction time is shorter etc etc.
    With the caveat that you have to be running 64-bit versions of the software in question. I know you are aware of this, but just throwing it out there for those that might read into that statement that 64-bit is just magically faster across the board.
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  10. Posts : 489
    Windows 7 Professional (x64/SP1) /Linux Mint 16
       #20

    I have 2GB of ram and changed to 64-bit about a year ago and got 2.0GB usable instead of 1.75GB usable.
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