| Windows 7: Failed PC Build |
24 Dec 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 & Ultimate x64 Scotland |
Failed PC Build I started building my own pc little under a year ago and am still pretty inexpericenceed with this stuff.
I have had it going for some time now (about 3 Months) but recently spent 280 pounds on a new grapics card which i put in today.
What it consists of now:
AMD Athlon II X2 250
Corsiar 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3
Point of View Nvidia GTX 570
MSI 770-C45
Samsung HD103SJ 1TB 32MB 7200RPM SATA HD
Antec Truepower 650W PSU
Actric Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 CPU Cooler
Antec 300 Case + two antec fans that came with the case
120mm Xilence Case Fan *3
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Other info:
Antivirus = Kaspersky IS 11
Monitor = Sony Bravia 32" TV
I, when planning this, thought that it would be an extremely good pc but found that it is really not alot better then my other much cheaper Dell Inspiron 546!:wallbash:
The most recent component i got was the GTX 570, i enjoy futureistic FPSs on xbox and thought this card would cope with Crysis, i installed that today and its ok, but nothing compared to the xbox, when i make the settings anthing high at all i get horrible lag worse than ever experienced on the xbox! but this computer cost over 3x as much! what is going on.
in the cusom pc 2007 benchmarks it got something sh*t like 750 and geek bench was only 3008. WEI is 5.9 but graphics is 7.3! (5.9 from harddisk)
i have done a little bit of research and the term "bottleneck" comes up alot, if i am the victim of this bottlenecking then which component is it?:miffed:
It seems to be ok with things like video conversion and the like but games it really falls down.
One thing that i have noticed is the components are quite cold CPU when not under stress sits at about 11-15 degrees, dont know if its related though i am in quite a cold room.
I started reading bit tech and buying custom PC from about 1/2 the way though and have follow some recomendations, i now worry about the components i chose myself when i didnt have so much money to spend such as the Motherboard and cpu.
Any help suggestions ideas possible upgrades would be greatly appreciated.
The aim buy the time this thread is over is to have me able to play crysis at an ok spec which out this bloody lag.
Thanks in advance.
Charlie | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 546 & Asus EEE PC 1005HAG & Home Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 & Ultimate x64 CPU 2.8GHZ & 1.66GHZ & Intel i5-2500k @3.3 Motherboard Asus p8p67 Memory 4GB & 1GB & 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3200, Intel intregrated, gtx 570 Sound Card all intregrated Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung PP227HD & Dell 20" & sony bravia 32 inch tv Screen Resolution 1920*1080, 1024*768, 1980*1080 Keyboard Microsoft Ergonomic Desktop 7000, + dell entry, + apple kb. Mouse Microsoft Ergonomic Desktop 7000 & Logitech Trackman Mouse PSU Antec tp650 Case Antec 300 Cooling Xilence and Asaka and Thermaltake Hard Drives C: 640gb
External HD: 500gb
netbook: 250
C: 1TB (home build) Internet Speed slow, just slow thats all i can say |
24 Dec 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
My only suggestions are:
Make sure you have the latest Bios.
Did it run better before adding the new Video card? If so, that may be an issue.
Also, most MSI boards come with auto OC switches on the MB. Make sure they are set to default level. They sometimes come OC'd.
Make sure the ram is in the correct slots.
Apparently there were problems with the MB and CPU as they have both been discontinued. Many users have said the MB takes much more power than it should. However, it seems to me that you have plenty of power. Also make sure everything in BIOS is set to default levels. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1. |
24 Dec 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 England |
YouGamers: PC Game Reviews, Previews, News, Articles, System Requirements and the Game-o-Meter
go here and run benchmark for crysis, it will tell you why your game is lagging, my guess is its because of CPU | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 - 2.4GHz Motherboard Asus P5E3 LGA775 Intel X38 Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis DDR3 1600MHz CL9 8GB DIMM Graphics Card XFX HD 5770 1GB DDR5 x 2 (CrossfireX) Sound Card ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 | Turtle Beach HPA 2 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster P2270HD Screen Resolution 1080p Keyboard Logitech K350 Mouse Logitech M705 | Steelseries gaming pad PSU 750 watts Case Zalman GS-1000 Special Edition Cooling Zalman CNPS10X Performa Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 S-ATA II SSD - 120GB (OS only)
Seagate Barracuda 1TB S-ATA
Maxtor 250GB S-ATA (Backup only)
WD Elements 500Gb/Go Internet Speed Virgin Media - 30Mbps Other Info 120mm fans x 4
(2 on top, 1 at rear, 1 at bottom) |
24 Dec 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 & Ultimate x64 Scotland |
are these results O.K?
24/12/2010 21:53:19 - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1280x1024, AA=2x, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=1, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 61.56s, Average FPS: 32.49
Min FPS: 14.09 at frame 141, Max FPS: 48.51 at frame 853
Average Tri/Sec: 32630732, Tri/Frame: 1004379
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.91
TimeDemo Play Ended, (1 Runs Performed)
============================================================== | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 546 & Asus EEE PC 1005HAG & Home Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 & Ultimate x64 CPU 2.8GHZ & 1.66GHZ & Intel i5-2500k @3.3 Motherboard Asus p8p67 Memory 4GB & 1GB & 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3200, Intel intregrated, gtx 570 Sound Card all intregrated Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung PP227HD & Dell 20" & sony bravia 32 inch tv Screen Resolution 1920*1080, 1024*768, 1980*1080 Keyboard Microsoft Ergonomic Desktop 7000, + dell entry, + apple kb. Mouse Microsoft Ergonomic Desktop 7000 & Logitech Trackman Mouse PSU Antec tp650 Case Antec 300 Cooling Xilence and Asaka and Thermaltake Hard Drives C: 640gb
External HD: 500gb
netbook: 250
C: 1TB (home build) Internet Speed slow, just slow thats all i can say |
24 Dec 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 & Ultimate x64 Scotland |
after running that benchmark i went in and played the game, still really bad.
So do you think its down to the CPU and MB?
Will they have a huge effect on my gaming performance? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 546 & Asus EEE PC 1005HAG & Home Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 & Ultimate x64 CPU 2.8GHZ & 1.66GHZ & Intel i5-2500k @3.3 Motherboard Asus p8p67 Memory 4GB & 1GB & 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3200, Intel intregrated, gtx 570 Sound Card all intregrated Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung PP227HD & Dell 20" & sony bravia 32 inch tv Screen Resolution 1920*1080, 1024*768, 1980*1080 Keyboard Microsoft Ergonomic Desktop 7000, + dell entry, + apple kb. Mouse Microsoft Ergonomic Desktop 7000 & Logitech Trackman Mouse PSU Antec tp650 Case Antec 300 Cooling Xilence and Asaka and Thermaltake Hard Drives C: 640gb
External HD: 500gb
netbook: 250
C: 1TB (home build) Internet Speed slow, just slow thats all i can say |
24 Dec 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |
Do not get caught up in chasing other people's stats. Also, if you're building a system soley bases on Crysis, that's the wrong approach to take and you will be spending a lot of money for a game that no matter the system, will cause it heartaches.
I know nothing about AMD systems, but looking at what you have isn't chop liver and that system should be good enough for todays games!
My two cents.
You can have a look at my guide for game tips if you think you're haivng issues - Tips on Troubleshooting Game Issues
Good luck | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
25 Dec 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 & Ultimate x64 Scotland |
i think that i have the uptoadte direct x bit i have too check the windows update and game patches. Also is kaspersky known for hogging resources? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 546 & Asus EEE PC 1005HAG & Home Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 & Ultimate x64 CPU 2.8GHZ & 1.66GHZ & Intel i5-2500k @3.3 Motherboard Asus p8p67 Memory 4GB & 1GB & 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3200, Intel intregrated, gtx 570 Sound Card all intregrated Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung PP227HD & Dell 20" & sony bravia 32 inch tv Screen Resolution 1920*1080, 1024*768, 1980*1080 Keyboard Microsoft Ergonomic Desktop 7000, + dell entry, + apple kb. Mouse Microsoft Ergonomic Desktop 7000 & Logitech Trackman Mouse PSU Antec tp650 Case Antec 300 Cooling Xilence and Asaka and Thermaltake Hard Drives C: 640gb
External HD: 500gb
netbook: 250
C: 1TB (home build) Internet Speed slow, just slow thats all i can say |
25 Dec 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
The Athlon is probally the bottle neck it is almost the bottom line processor next to turion
maybe a athlon II X4 maybe run better or if you had a phenom chip you would even be better off | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
25 Dec 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 & Ultimate x64 Scotland |
i thought about buy a new cpu but i have enough to buy a new mb and cpu so was thinking of going intel when the new chips come out soon. Good idea? i agree that the cpu is probably the weakest component but would that be the only thing that is effecting my gaming? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 546 & Asus EEE PC 1005HAG & Home Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 & Ultimate x64 CPU 2.8GHZ & 1.66GHZ & Intel i5-2500k @3.3 Motherboard Asus p8p67 Memory 4GB & 1GB & 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3200, Intel intregrated, gtx 570 Sound Card all intregrated Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung PP227HD & Dell 20" & sony bravia 32 inch tv Screen Resolution 1920*1080, 1024*768, 1980*1080 Keyboard Microsoft Ergonomic Desktop 7000, + dell entry, + apple kb. Mouse Microsoft Ergonomic Desktop 7000 & Logitech Trackman Mouse PSU Antec tp650 Case Antec 300 Cooling Xilence and Asaka and Thermaltake Hard Drives C: 640gb
External HD: 500gb
netbook: 250
C: 1TB (home build) Internet Speed slow, just slow thats all i can say |
25 Dec 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
if you have enough for a mobo and cpu why not just go with the amd strong cpu and am3 board
be pretty good performance with out spending the big bucks you would with intel
but like (Sygnus 21) said if your bases is trying to run crysis lag free you are heading in the wrong direction that game is demanding and unless you plan to spend some serious funds i would not seek out the perfect way to run it | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen Failed PC Build problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:54 PM. | |