| Windows 7: Frequent hdd access, horrible performance |
04 Jan 2011
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 8 posts |
Frequent hdd access, horrible performance I've been trying to pin down this problem for months now, and I can't tell if it's getting worse or I'm just getting more frustrated with it. Every once in a while, for no apparent reason, my computer will just stop responding, and any audio or video will pause, for 5 to 10 seconds while the hard drive whirs noisily. By not responding, I mean the cursor does not respond to the mouse, and keyboard entries are remembered but not acted on until the 10 seconds are up. It has made watching video files an exercise in waiting for the inevitable. It (or something similar? not sure) happens very often when using Firefox with several tabs open - haven't yet tried other browsers to compare.
Interestingly, while video files (on system hdd or others) simply pause 10 seconds, and continue afterword as if nothing had happened (sometimes with temporary artifacts), a DVD will pause, then spend an additional 10 seconds playing the video first at maybe 2x speed, then switch to 0.5x speed, and finally back to 1x.
Memory usage almost never goes over 50%. Hard drive is less than half full. I have updated everything I can think of, including the hard drive's firmware. The problem persists in safe mode. There are no correlating events in Event Viewer. I've tried to use Performance Monitor and Process Monitor to track down whether there's any particular process that's causing it, but no luck so far. It doesn't appear to be reading or writing anything to disk during this time, but the %Idle in Performance Monitor drops to 0, while the current queue creeps up, and then there's a burst of reading and writing in the last second. I've run the Seagate's SeaTools hard drive tests, and they come up clean. Same for Windows memory test.
I knew when I bought this machine that it wouldn't be blazing fast, but I didn't expect performance like this. Am I running into some kind of hardware problem? Or is there some problem with my Windows 7 installation or settings that is causing this? | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Athlon II X4 630 2.8 GHz Motherboard MSI 785gtm-e45 Memory 4 gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 4650 Hard Drives Seagate Barricuda 7200.12 750gb |
04 Jan 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) 9,922 posts South Australia |
Hi,
To start with lets rule out any problem with the health status of the disk. Please download and run this program, and post the resultant image here. CrystalDiskInfo - Software - Crystal Dew World
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 27 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
04 Jan 2011
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 8 posts |
Nifty program. Not quite sure what you mean by 'the resulting image', but here's... something, anyway. Not sure how concerned to be by that reallocated sectors count. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Athlon II X4 630 2.8 GHz Motherboard MSI 785gtm-e45 Memory 4 gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 4650 Hard Drives Seagate Barricuda 7200.12 750gb |
04 Jan 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) 9,922 posts South Australia |
Hi,
Thats the image right there that you posted, but please maxmimise it and post again - there are some items on the bottom that you clipped off.
Regards,
golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 27 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
04 Jan 2011
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 8 posts |
I notice Reallocated Sectors has increased by two in just the past half-hour. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Athlon II X4 630 2.8 GHz Motherboard MSI 785gtm-e45 Memory 4 gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 4650 Hard Drives Seagate Barricuda 7200.12 750gb |
04 Jan 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) 9,922 posts South Australia |
OK. The reallocated sector counts are a bit of a concern, but lets try a few other things first.
Can you please run the following:
1. Click Start Orb, and in the search box type "cmd"
2. Right-click on cmd and select Run as Administrator
3. Type chkdsk /f
You will be asked if you want to schedule a check disk at next boot, select YES. Now restart the PC, it will immediately run a chkdsk. This will take some time. Its important not to interiupt it until its finished. Take note of any messages close to when it completes.
Once its done, re-run CrystalDiskInfo, and lets see if the image has changed.
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 27 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
04 Jan 2011
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 8 posts |
Code:
Checking file system on C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
A disk check has been scheduled.
Windows will now check the disk.
CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
326144 file records processed. File verification completed.
278 large file records processed. 0 bad file records processed. 2 EA records processed. 60 reparse records processed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
400370 index entries processed. Index verification completed.
0 unindexed files scanned. 0 unindexed files recovered. CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
326144 file SDs/SIDs processed. Cleaning up 406 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 406 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 406 unused security descriptors.
Security descriptor verification completed.
37114 data files processed. CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
37561640 USN bytes processed. Usn Journal verification completed.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the
master file table (MFT) bitmap.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the volume bitmap.
Windows has made corrections to the file system.
732469247 KB total disk space.
262182808 KB in 286051 files.
135376 KB in 37115 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
452163 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
469698900 KB available on disk.
4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
183117311 total allocation units on disk.
117424725 allocation units available on disk.
Internal Info:
00 fa 04 00 69 ee 04 00 63 c6 08 00 00 00 00 00 ....i...c.......
06 0a 00 00 3c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ....<...........
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
Windows has finished checking your disk.
Please wait while your computer restarts. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Athlon II X4 630 2.8 GHz Motherboard MSI 785gtm-e45 Memory 4 gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 4650 Hard Drives Seagate Barricuda 7200.12 750gb |
04 Jan 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) 9,922 posts South Australia |
Mmmm. OK.
Well, Reallocated Sector Counts is above the threshold, but all the other SMART indicators seems OK to me. I think this is definately disk/RAM related.
Couple of questions:
1. How defragmented is the disk?
2. What is the size of your pagefile?
I noticed you have a drive E: and F:. None of the videos/audio etc, you are running are from those are they? All the issues you experience are off the C: drive?
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 27 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
04 Jan 2011
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| | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 4,011 posts Australia |
I have the 1TB version of this disk. Is yours a 7200.11 or 7200.12? 7200.11 firmware was quite bad and needed to be updated.
After checking fragmentation (Windows should be set to do this automatically), you may want to download CrystalDiskMark from the same site as CrystalDiskinfo. This will run a detailed disk speed check.
chkdsk /r will do a complete bad sector scan. You can schedule the test from Windows
Computer>right click disk>properties>tools>check now> tick scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors.
This is a long test and for your disk could take ~ 2hours. It will give progress readout. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
05 Jan 2011
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 8 posts |
Thank you for these extremely prompt replies.
In general, I feel like I run into this problem more when I'm accessing something on the C: drive than when I'm accessing something on the E: or F: drives. One weird thing I ran into lately (should have thought to check it earlier) is that the problem seems to be much worse on my administrator account (generally the one I use) than on the guest account. I haven't actually verified that I can experience the problem on the guest account after a few hours of testing, whereas it is becoming a constant annoyance on my main account. I will continue testing.
It is a 7200.12 (model # st3750528as), and the firmware is up to date.
I have a scheduled defragmentation every Wednesday at 1am. Fragmentation of C: is currently at 3%, so I think we can safely assume that that level of fragmentation has accumulated over the past week.
Total paging file size for all drives: 4095 MB | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Athlon II X4 630 2.8 GHz Motherboard MSI 785gtm-e45 Memory 4 gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 4650 Hard Drives Seagate Barricuda 7200.12 750gb Frequent hdd access, horrible performance problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:46 PM. | |