| Windows 7: Huge pagefile.sys file |
07 Jul 2009
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#11 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] Los Angeles |

Quote: Originally Posted by Tzeapa And I can't understand why games like Fuel won't start with no virtual memory For almost 7 years, I have NOT run a pagefile at all and have never found a game/program that wouldn't run. And any that require a pagefile are not worth running. | My System Specs |
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07 Jul 2009
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#12 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Because of the way that some applications are written it is not a good idea to remove the pagefile completely.
However if you have a lot of available ram you may gain disk space by setting the page file size to a lower number (at least 512 MB) just to keep any programs that require it's presence happy.
Due to the way the pagefile is used if you have sufficient RAM the pagefile should never be used so would not slow the system down. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
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07 Jul 2009
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#13 | | Win7 x64 + x86 Southeastern CT, USA |
The pagefile is where the Windows Memory Manager stores data that isn't currently in RAM. It does this under several conditions - the most common being when there isn't enough RAM to work the system.
Some programs (particularly video games) will require a pagefile. If you attempt to run them without a pagefile they'll complain about it and refuse to run. I ran an XP system a while back without a pagefile and it worked well until I ran into one of those games referred to above.
Any "average" system with at least 4gB of RAM shouldn't have issues with the pagefile unless there's a lot of stuff open and working. Corrupted programs can cause excessive pagefile usage - and monkeying with the pagefile may help out, but that's just treating the symptoms without fixing the problem.
You can easily create a pagefile if one is needed. Go to Start and type in "sysdm.cpl" (without the quotes) and press Enter
Click on the Advanced tab
Click on the Performance Settings button
Click on the Advanced tab
Click on the Virtual Memory Change button
That will get you into the dialog to create, edit, or delete the pagefile.
A final caveat is that, if you don't have a pagefile, you won't be able to create memory dump files in the event of a crash. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (x64), Lenovo x61s Tablet, Samsung Netbook OS Win7 x64 + x86 CPU Intel i7 920, other Intel chips, and the Atom in the netbook Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe Memory 12 gB; 4 gB Lenovo; 1 gB Samsung netbook Graphics Card ATI 4870 Sound Card Yes, I have one of these Monitor(s) Displays 32" Sharp Aquos TV Screen Resolution 800x600 - I have vision issues Keyboard Microsoft Natural Mouse Logitech Trackman PSU 1000 watt (can't recall the brand) Case Antec 300 Cooling Big honking cooler that was rated highly at Toms Hardware Hard Drives 4 - 150 gB Velociraptors in RAID 5
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07 Jul 2009
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#14 | | |
Windows will page to disk no matter what. If you run in to something that requires one it is going to take a lot longer for the OS to create one and start one, than if it were there to begin with. Just change it to something small if you have 8GB of ram, like 1024MB (1GB)
I have 6GB of ram and still create one just as big. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built Myself OS Windows 7 7600.16384 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 OC'd to 3.20 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Memory 6GB GSkillz Triple Channel DDR3 OC'd to 1600 MHz Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 280 Sound Card X-Fi Platinum Monitor(s) Displays Dual 2001FWP Screen Resolution 1680x1050 x 2 Keyboard Saitek Mouse logitech MX 10000 PSU Gigawatt Antec Case Antec 900 Hard Drives System - Dual 150GB Raptors Raid0
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07 Jul 2009
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#15 | | Windows 7 64-bit (7127) & Mac OS X 10.5.7 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Tzeapa Actually virtual memory is slowing down the computer because the os instead of using RAM uses pagefile.sys wich is located on HDD. Disabling it will give your computer a boost of performance...
Virtual Memory is for computers with small amounts of ram !
And I can't understand why games like Fuel won't start with no virtual memory
Has anyone ever been able to prove this? Are there any benchmarks or something that show this is true? Or do people just "feel" like it's faster.
With HDD's being 1+ TB nowadays, losing 5-8 GB to pagefile is no big deal. But it would make sense that it's not worth having anymore. I like the idea of setting pagefile to something very small like 512MB - 1GB. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple MacBook Pro OS Windows 7 64-bit (7127) & Mac OS X 10.5.7 CPU 2.53 GHz Intel Core2Duo (6MB L2 Cache) Memory 4GB DDR2 667 Graphics Card 8600M GT 512MB Monitor(s) Displays 15.4 LED backlit LCD Screen Resolution 1440x900 Mouse Logitech Hard Drives Hitachi 250GB 5400 RPM (soon to be replaced) |
07 Jul 2009
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#16 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 The Wild West |

Quote: Originally Posted by Jon55 With HDD's being 1+ TB nowadays, losing 5-8 GB to pagefile is no big deal. But it would make sense that it's not worth having anymore. I like the idea of setting pagefile to something very small like 512MB - 1GB. With SSDs becoming a little more popular the pagefile becomes more comlicated than it is already. I have turned mine off because I don't want needless stuff being written to it. Seems to be fine. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. |
07 Jul 2009
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Pittsburgh |

Quote: Originally Posted by nate42nd With SSDs becoming a little more popular the pagefile becomes more comlicated than it is already. I have turned mine off because I don't want needless stuff being written to it. Seems to be fine. Now that there are SSD out in the wild and with wear I would turn it off. But since I still have a standard drive and use programs that want to have a swap space I leave it set to 1.5 of my ram, I also have stuff open all the time. You will find people all over the place that says to leave it or to turn it off, let windows choose the size or set it manually. I've see all of them done and used all of them and each machine works differently with each setting. I would say try it off see how it run, then set it to a size or just let windows do its thing. I would love to see programers stop using the swap space and just use ram or unload items when needed. People have the ram now and faster hard drives so the swap drive is not needed as much as before.
Test each of the settings see how your machine acts then go with the best results. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II 1090 3.2 six core Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD65 Memory 16 gig DDR3 Graphics Card MSI R6950 2gig Sound Card on board Monitor(s) Displays Acer 23inch led Screen Resolution 1900x1080 widescreen PSU CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W Case CoolMaster HAF 922 Cooling Box AMD Heatsink/Fan Hard Drives Seagate 1tb SATA6
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07 Jul 2009
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#18 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by nate42nd With SSDs becoming a little more popular the pagefile becomes more comlicated than it is already. I have turned mine off because I don't want needless stuff being written to it. Seems to be fine.
Even if you disable the pagfile, if it needs it, it will create it or page to kernel won't it? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built Myself OS Windows 7 7600.16384 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 OC'd to 3.20 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Memory 6GB GSkillz Triple Channel DDR3 OC'd to 1600 MHz Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 280 Sound Card X-Fi Platinum Monitor(s) Displays Dual 2001FWP Screen Resolution 1680x1050 x 2 Keyboard Saitek Mouse logitech MX 10000 PSU Gigawatt Antec Case Antec 900 Hard Drives System - Dual 150GB Raptors Raid0
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07 Jul 2009
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#19 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |
page file 
Quote: Originally Posted by AdeonC Hello everyone. I have a doubt in an odd situation.
I divided my Hard Disc onto three partitions. One of them I haven't used yet, so, hipotetically (I guess), it should be blank (with no files), right?
Well, I've just noticed that this "empty" partition has 5GB occupied already.
When I unchecked "Hide protected operating system files" feature, I found out this pagefile.sys file which has about 5.12GB.
What's that file for? Can I just get rid of it or, at least, reduce its size?
Thanks. You dont actually have to have a page file especially if you have 4gigs or more of ram. You want tro set a lower and upper limit not let the system manage it. I have zero page file and nothing has happens. If you are more caoutious set on on a diff drive than where yhe OS is and make it abt 1.5 times the amount of ram
Hope this helps and let me know how it turns out
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07 Jul 2009
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#20 | | |
Hi there, folks!
Just to state that this amount of virtual memory that I've set was proposital. I'm currently using 3d programs for CGi, such as 3ds max, which requires a bunch of memory. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Tzeapa Actually virtual memory is slowing down the computer because the os instead of using RAM uses pagefile.sys wich is located on HDD. Disabling it will give your computer a boost of performance... I didn't say that my machine is running slow ever since  It's running quite well though
Anyways, thanks for the answers. It's been an interesting discussion. | My System Specs | | OS Win 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom II x6 3.2gHz Memory Kingstone 4GB 1333Hz Graphics Card Radeon 6970 2GB Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster TA550 Screen Resolution 1920x1080px PSU XFX Pro 650W Case Some fancy case from Leadership Internet Speed 10mb/s (when it works) Huge pagefile.sys file problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:54 PM. | |