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Windows 7: Windows Explorer - Searching for items.


17 Apr 2011   #1
Joq

Windows 7 - 64bit
 
 
Windows Explorer - Searching for items.

Hello, i'm running my Windows 7 on a SSD and i've done the optimized settins what i've read over the internet.
I also use the Windows Classic theme, where i see the statusbar etc.

My problem is when i open My computer and then go to some drive(non-SSD) it opens the drive but doesn't show the files/or shows the files but still they're not sorted correctly, untill it is done with the "Searching for items."(which is written on the statusbar at the bottom.

This can take a few seconds to what seems like a minute, probably only though a good 30-40seconds.

I wouldn't have a problem with this if it only did this once, but it does this "Searching for items." pretty much all the time when i go to a drives(non-SSD) root.
Notice the root of the drive, when i go to some subfolders on the drive it doesn't "Search for items" and shows the files on the folder instantly, but when i then click back to the root of the drive it starts the "Searching for items." all over again.

I had couple of thoughts of why this is happening, first i thought it would be because i had disabled the pagefile due to my SSD; now i've added the pagefile on my SSD and the problem is still there.
The second thing which i thought of was the Indexing of the drives, i've disabled the Indexing on my SSD but i've left it on for every other drives. I don't know if there's a possibility that the indexing on the other drives may be off even though when i click on the drive and choose properties, i can see that the Allow indexing is chosen.

Anyways the problem is really annoying, since i have the SSD it really is great but if i have to endure minutes of my time going back and forth from root to folder on other drives; it's not worth it.

Anyway, thanks for reading and hope you can help.

Cheers.


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17 Apr 2011   #2

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Are you using Indexing?
If you are try turn that off. It a check box on the properties dialog window.

Not a good idea to Disable the pagefile. Just make is smaller. Like setting the low limit to 1GB and the high limit to something around 8.

But the SSD has nothing to do with the pagefile size. It is the amount of memory you have installed that give you the leeway to set the pagefile to a low setting.
Windows and other program need the pagefile, they need it to be there even if it is never used.
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17 Apr 2011   #3
Joq

Windows 7 - 64bit
 
 

I have Indexing checked on every drive, except on the SSD.

I have 4gb of RAM and have set the pagefile on the SSD, with low 250mb and high 1024mb.
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17 Apr 2011   #4

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Joq View Post
I have Indexing checked on every drive, except on the SSD.

I have 4gb of RAM and have set the pagefile on the SSD, with low 250mb and high 1024mb.
With only 4GBs of RAM you have the pagefile set way to low, IMHO.
I'm running 16GBs of RAM and have it set at 1GB as the low limit.
And yes I also have a SSD for the OS and programs.

And try unchecking the indexing feature like I suggested in my first post. You can always enable it again.

Look at the correlation. No indexing, SSD and faster folder/file display (yes it is a SSD).
Indexing checked and slower folder/file display.

IMHO most PC experts always uncheck that indexing feature. On faster PCs, most every one that is made today, that feature is of no use except to use resources.
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18 Apr 2011   #5
Joq

Windows 7 - 64bit
 
 

Aye, i'll give it a try. I think i've tried it before though i can't remember for sure.

I figured the indexing the otherway around, i gathered it was keeping things fast since it indexed everything once and then when new files/folders got added it would only need to add 'em to its memory.

But i'll give it a go, it'll be later on this week before i get a chance to test it.

About the pagefile, i read from the SSD optimized settings that since SSD is almost instant it doesn't require pagefile. But then again i read somewhere that only a small amount of pagefile would be needed if any. I guess there are mixed feelings about the pagefile issue with SSDs.

I have got 4 sticks of 2gb DDR3's but my motherboard doesn't seem to like the RAM sticks, because if i add more than 2 sticks it starts to give errors on Memtest; and also the pc becomes unstable. I have Asus p7p55d-e as motherboard and Team Group Xtreem Dark DDR3 PC3 10660 DDR3 1333 MHz CL7 - 2gb sticks and four of them. It was originally two kits of three sticks but i sold 2 sticks to a mate and kept 4 sticks.

The motherboard has been to the service and came back with a note which said one of the cpu pins on the mobo was bent, they straightened it and it worked; for a week. Then it began to do the same again, i sent it back to the service where they then replaced it for a new mobo of the same model. It did work for a day. Then the respond was from the service that maybe the CPU had faults and i asked if they we're willing to have a look at it, but because it wasn't bought through them(Mobo and the RAMs were bought through them) they would have charged me by the hour to have a look at it.
I didn't send it to them, i kept the mobo and now i have only 2 sticks on it and it works perfectly. I have kept an eye on Asus updates for bios with more RAM stability and compatability.
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18 Apr 2011   #6

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

The pagefile is not there to help the hard drive. It is there as Virtual Memory (RAM).
If you like you can move the pagefile off the SSD and put it on a spinning HDD.

This pagefile debate has been going on for years. Simple fact is the OS and programs like to SEE a pagefile even if it never gets used. In your case with only 4GBs of RAM the pagefile will get used. Not having one or limiting the size of it is not a good idea if you want a stable system

Then some of your RAM is bad. If you have good RAM memtest will report no errors.
It's not your motherboard, it's the RAM.
I have 16GBs, 2 of one brand and 2 of another. I have run memtest for 12 hours and got no errors. And that is with the system overclocked.
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18 Apr 2011   #7
Joq

Windows 7 - 64bit
 
 

Sorry i forgot to mention that all of the RAM sticks have been tested individually and in pairs(2 at a time), tested by me and by the provider/service.

As i said the service thought it might be something with the CPUs memory-controller or something.

I don't know if this could be a clue to pinpoint the problem, when i start memtest i almost immediately get the errors when more than 2 sticks are used. Everytime.

But individually and in pairs they work just fine.
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