| Windows 7: To superfetch or not? |
23 May 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional x 64 SP1 |
To superfetch or not? Hi... new here and have learned lots and lots!
I have a new computer (Mar 2011) and after reading everything here about installing the SP1, I bit the bullet. Everything went smoothly.
The next day I noticed my boot time went from 45 sec to 95. From posts here, I waited 5 days to see if things "settled" down and no change. Sooooo.... I looked at the events logs and noticed the following events that occurred during the SP1 installation....
(info) superfetch service was changed from auto start to demand start....
(info) superfetch service entered the stopped state and finally....
(error) the superfetch service terminated with the following error "The service has not been started"
Subsequent boot-ups events make no mention of superfetch.
I do not know if superfetch was enabled prior to the SP installation and now am trying to get my boot time back to a reasonable time. Should I enable superfetch? The current status is "manual".
I've read everything on this forum about superfetch and notice some say that with a lot of ram, 8GB, it is not needed and won't help. My applications seem to open without much delay but this boot time is driving me nuts!
Ran malware bytes and ccleaner = o problems
Disabled most entries in msconfig start-up
I'm holding up on installing windows updates (29 of em now) so that this problem gets fixed first.
Appreciate any help.......
Ann | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio XPS 7100 OS Windows 7 Professional x 64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II 1090 Processor 3.2 GHZ Memory 8GB Graphics Card ATI radeon 5670 Sound Card X-Fi Extreme Audio PCle - Harmon Kardon speakers HK395 2.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24-in wide ST2420L Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Mouse USB 6 BUTTON LASER MOUSE PSU 460W Case MINI TOWER DELL Hard Drives 1TB Serial ATA2 7200 RPM |
23 May 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Superfetch should have been enabled - Automatic (Delayed Start) in Services by default with a new installation of Windows.
The only reason to have Superfetch disabled, would be if you had an SSD. And even then, it's 50/50 on if it should be disabled or enabled with an SSD.
If you just have a HDD then it should be enabled - Automatic (Delayed Start). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Airbot 2.0 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, *26c idle *65c full load on air Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium - Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0 Memory 12GB DDR3 Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8 at 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 -Aftermaket Accelero Xtreme Plus cooler Sound Card ASUS Xonar D2X Monitor(s) Displays 1 LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF 1 Samsung 24" P2450H both 2ms RT Screen Resolution 1920x1080@60hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless MK700 Mouse Logitech Wireless MK700 PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Case Fans *3 230mm, *1 140mm/CPU - *Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Hard Drives 1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache
2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS)
Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M Internet Speed DL 15 Mbps UL 0.98 Mbps Antivirus None Browser Firefox Nightly Other Info Processor-7.7 *RAM- 7.9 *Graphics-7.9 *Gaming Graphics- 7.9 *SSD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7
*Phone- Samsung Galaxy Nexus |
23 May 2011
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#3 | | |
Yes, SuperFetch always on. Unless you have an SSD and follow Intels recommendation to turn it off. I honestly don't understand why Intel wants it off. As RAM is certainly faster than any SSD. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
23 May 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional x 64 SP1 |
Thank you! Can't get over the quick response time!!!
I'll enable it and see what happens after a few start-ups. Keeping fingers crossed.....
Ann | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio XPS 7100 OS Windows 7 Professional x 64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II 1090 Processor 3.2 GHZ Memory 8GB Graphics Card ATI radeon 5670 Sound Card X-Fi Extreme Audio PCle - Harmon Kardon speakers HK395 2.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24-in wide ST2420L Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Mouse USB 6 BUTTON LASER MOUSE PSU 460W Case MINI TOWER DELL Hard Drives 1TB Serial ATA2 7200 RPM |
23 May 2011
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#5 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
For a test I would disable Superfetch and see whether that improves boot time. But especially with a HDD, you can only loose in the long run if you keep it disabled. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
23 May 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Not sure why Superfetch would even play in with affecting boot time. Being that it's set at "Delayed Start". | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Airbot 2.0 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, *26c idle *65c full load on air Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium - Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0 Memory 12GB DDR3 Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8 at 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 -Aftermaket Accelero Xtreme Plus cooler Sound Card ASUS Xonar D2X Monitor(s) Displays 1 LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF 1 Samsung 24" P2450H both 2ms RT Screen Resolution 1920x1080@60hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless MK700 Mouse Logitech Wireless MK700 PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Case Fans *3 230mm, *1 140mm/CPU - *Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Hard Drives 1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache
2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS)
Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M Internet Speed DL 15 Mbps UL 0.98 Mbps Antivirus None Browser Firefox Nightly Other Info Processor-7.7 *RAM- 7.9 *Graphics-7.9 *Gaming Graphics- 7.9 *SSD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7
*Phone- Samsung Galaxy Nexus |
23 May 2011
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#7 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot Not sure why Superfetch would even play in with affecting boot time. Being that it's set at "Delayed Start". Agreed, I've never tested SuperFetch with boot times. It doesn't make sense. It should happen after the bootup. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
23 May 2011
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#8 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Another idea: Run this great program ( http://www.soluto.com/ ). Then you will know exactly which process takes how much time during boot. You will also be able to manage those processes (delay, kill) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
23 May 2011
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#9 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnJ Hi... new here and have learned lots and lots!
I have a new computer (Mar 2011) and after reading everything here about installing the SP1, I bit the bullet. Everything went smoothly.
The next day I noticed my boot time went from 45 sec to 95. From posts here, I waited 5 days to see if things "settled" down and no change. Sooooo.... I looked at the events logs and noticed the following events that occurred during the SP1 installation....
(info) superfetch service was changed from auto start to demand start....
(info) superfetch service entered the stopped state and finally....
(error) the superfetch service terminated with the following error "The service has not been started"
Subsequent boot-ups events make no mention of superfetch.
I do not know if superfetch was enabled prior to the SP installation and now am trying to get my boot time back to a reasonable time. Should I enable superfetch? The current status is "manual".
I've read everything on this forum about superfetch and notice some say that with a lot of ram, 8GB, it is not needed and won't help. My applications seem to open without much delay but this boot time is driving me nuts!
Ran malware bytes and ccleaner = o problems
Disabled most entries in msconfig start-up
I'm holding up on installing windows updates (29 of em now) so that this problem gets fixed first.
Appreciate any help.......
Ann Apparently MS changed superfetch from Automatic to Manual with SP1 (mine is manual with sp1). So no problem there.
If you run services.msc from the search bar, is superfetch enabled and set to Manual? If yes, so far, so good. If som, then try starting the service. Did it start? Then you are OK. If not, further debugging is required. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.8, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9 |
23 May 2011
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#10 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot Not sure why Superfetch would even play in with affecting boot time. Being that it's set at "Delayed Start". Mine is set to manual after SP1. I believe it used to be automatic. I don;t believe it was ever delayed start.
Superfetch does thereadyboot boot optimization as well. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.8, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9 To superfetch or not? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:15 PM. | |