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Windows 7: Boot errors,shutdown errors, wake errors.

16 Aug 2011   #1
ariel5345

7 professional
 
 
Boot errors,shutdown errors, wake errors.

Wake from sleep is slow and I loose control over curser for 10 sec.

These are most of the errors and their numbers that I have been getting over the past 5 days.

Boot duration 100,101,109,103
Stanby duration 300


Driver caused delay
351 Thumbdrive driver delay
302 Peer-to-Peer Tunneling Protocol
302 RAS SSTP Miniport Call Manager
302 NVIDIA MCP Networking Function Driver
351 ACPI Driver for NT
302 RICOH SD/MMC Driver
Shut down delay 200, 201
Shut down caused by Services delays 203 many different services


I have done the boot and shutdown trace (Gathering a Startup, Shutdown, Sleep, Hibernate, or Reboot Trace[2]=Performance%20Maintenance) and have pm'ed you the link.

I am doing a clean install and would like to get these errors handled before I make an Image.
Thanks for your help!


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16 Aug 2011   #2
cluberti

Windows 8.1 x64
 
 

Those numbers are in milliseconds, so all of them added up isn't going to amount to anything. Your trace didn't merge (you have a kmode and a umode .etl file), so I'm merging this manually (meaning I may be missing some portion of the data - I would hope not, but it is possible). There are a couple of things here (the nvidia driver is causing network stack delays during boot, disk fragmentation is apparent, especially in the MFT, Windows Defender is enabled and scanning, heavily, during boot, etc), but I did find something interesting. the xmarks IE add-in seems to cause about a 10 second driver request at about the same time csc is loading, which also occurs at around the same time that an svchost is doing a scan of the registry (and a lot of random writes during read). I also notice that the system spends a lot of time on D:, but the disk information says the partition is C: on a Fujitsu MHW2160BH - that seems a bit odd, so I'm wondering which is which.

Ultimately, however, I am not sure it's anything you've done, per se, but it's a convergence of things here that are conspiring to slow your system. It might make sense to do a few things:
  1. Stop/Disable Windows Defender, and replace it with an actual antivirus/antimalware product like Avast, MSE, etc.
  2. Disable/remove xmarks temporarily - it's not doing you any favors
  3. Run a manual disk defragmentation pass, and then defragment free space as well with defrag.exe (see /? for options)
  4. Make sure your nvidia drivers are up to date - they aren't doing you any favors either, although you may not be able to do much about the perf hit they'll give during boot/resume, unfortunately

The delays here appear to be too many cooks in the disk I/O kitchen at the same time on a slow disk - that Fujitsu is a 5400RPM disk with only 8MB of cache (1st gen SATA, and designed for reductions in power consumption, not speed), which would explain two things - one, why it's I/O performance is slow, and two, why the cache is flushing so frequently. Ultimately, the disk is *really* slow in today's technological parlance, and it is especially important that be noted given all the I/O being thrown at it.
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16 Aug 2011   #3
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

This is similar to the trace Clue read last year on a Dell with 2 minute startup. Turns out it had a 5400 rpm HD on a Core 2 Duo! Another reason the Dell Dude got fired.

Getting the System files defragged at boot cut the time to a minute, the slow HD is the rest of it.
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16 Aug 2011   #4
ariel5345

7 professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
There are a couple of things here (the nvidia driver is causing network stack delays during boot, disk fragmentation is apparent, especially in the MFT,
Windows did all of my driver installs. Is the problem enough for me to look for another? If it is... what Nvidea driver is it? The whole driver naming confuses the heck out of me.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
I also notice that the system spends a lot of time on D:, but the disk information says the partition is C: on a Fujitsu MHW2160BH - that seems a bit odd, so I'm wondering which is which.
D: is my dvd disk. No cd or dvd in it. There is a hidden partician for Mbr and whatever for the install. Here is a picture.Name:  Disk partician.png
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I also just recently erased an A: partician that I had made for data.



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
  1. Stop/Disable Windows Defender, and replace it with an actual antivirus/antimalware product like Avast, MSE, etc.
  2. Disable/remove xmarks temporarily - it's not doing you any favors
  3. Run a manual disk defragmentation pass, and then defragment free space as well with defrag.exe (see /? for options)
  4. Make sure your nvidia drivers are up to date - they aren't doing you any favors either, although you may not be able to do much about the perf hit they'll give during boot/resume, unfortunately
1. I already have MSE installed. It has been having side by side errors #72. I looked it up. Many others also have the same errors, yet no solutions yet. Defender was auto shut off by MSE when I installed. I checked.
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2. Uninstalled X-marks. Don't really need it.

3. Done.

4. Which Nvidea drivers?
I have such a hard time w/names and device manager is not much help, and driver scanners use different names and well I think it's a conspiracy to keep me from searching for my own drivers. Hp will only support Vista drivers for my system. I think they Frankenstien built my hardware and don't want anyone to update drivers on their own.


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16 Aug 2011   #5
cluberti

Windows 8.1 x64
 
 

That's really interesting - all of the files/folders accessed in the trace are D:\. Hopefully that's just an artifact of having to do the merge on my machine, rather than the tool doing it as it should have done on yours automatically.

In fact, this is all very interesting. Ultimately though, the main problem is with the speed of the disk (or should I say, lack thereof).
  • Get the Nvidia drivers for your card from Nvidia directly (your specs say it's a GeForce 7150 - drivers for this chipset here)
  • I must have looked and seen the processes and assumed Defender rather than MSE - my fault
  • Consider upgrading that hard drive to at least a 7200RPM model with at least 16MB of cache (that will add at least 33% more I/O speed to your machine, and sometimes more if it's a hybrid drive)
Otherwise, you're stuck fighting physics at this point, and you'll lose every time .
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16 Aug 2011   #6
ariel5345

7 professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
[*]I must have looked and seen the processes and assumed Defender rather than MSE - my fault
Maybe not a mistake. Read this...Event ID 72 error after installing MSE - Microsoft Answers maybe it is the reason for the side by side errors. Of course it's all over my head

Thank you so much for everything! Your'e awesome!
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