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Windows 7: CPU usage in idle


25 Aug 2011   #1

Windows 7 Professional x32
 
 
CPU usage in idle

Hello,
I have question regarding CPU usage when my laptop has not have any application up and running (at least not by my request).
I have changed some of the Start Up in msconfig. Everything that I don't really need on immediate Windows start up I have not selected. That is fine.
But still absolutely randomly I will have my CPU usage going up and down from 1% to sometimes over 40% if not even more. Recently what has happened is that I left task Manager up (only, nothing else) in order to monitor CPU usage. While I was watching CPU usage was as I would say normal. 0%-7% up and down. After let say 45 minutes I got back to check again. I log on and much to my surprise I have noticed that my CPU usage in last, at least 10 minutes was constantly around 40%-50%. Strangely enough few second after I log on CPU usage has dropped down to the previous percentage.
I am talking over here about Acer 5378Z
4GB RAM
T4300 Dual Core
WD320GB 5400
Intel Graph (up to 1.8GB share memory)
Windows 7 x64 Home Premium (with latest updates)

Do you have any idea what it could be?
I also scanned computer against viruses and malware. All clear.



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25 Aug 2011   #2

32bit: XP, Win7 H.P. / 64bit: 2008R2, Win7 Pro, Ultimate / Several flavors of Linux
 
 

Hello bokiboss -

Do you have indexing enabled? Do you have antivirus program running a deep scan during idle times? Have you looking into the scheduler to see what gets triggered during idle time?

Regards,
GEWB
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25 Aug 2011   #3

Windows 7 Professional x32
 
 

Thanks GEWB,

I am not sure about Anti-Virus. I will double check.
But I will definitely check Scheduler.
Also I believe I have disabled Indexing long time ago but now I am not sure whether I did only on my old laptop.
Thank you very much. I will come back with some results soon as I check this settings.
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25 Aug 2011   #4

Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)
 
 

Is this causing an actual problem?
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25 Aug 2011   #5

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

bokiboss,
| TASKSCHD.MSC | ENTER

The initial screen will give you a good idea of what tasks are scheduled on your computer.

By clicking on Task Schedule Library (left-hand pane) you will get more info on the scheduled tasks.


If you have no problems, then remember the words of the ancient philosoppher: Thou shalt sweat it not.
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26 Aug 2011   #6

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

@bokiboss:

Are you using MSE Security Essentials from MS?

Which version ...v1 or v2?


Open your taskbar and look for the process called MsMpEng.exe.

It should read "0% cpu" . Now do not touch anything on the computer and x out of all programs so that nothing on the desktop is running except for the MSE and the taskbar. Wait a minute or so....do you see the MsMpEng.exe program spool up and use lots of CPU? I bet you do.

This the the MSE realtime protection scanner. It is designed to only operate when you idle your PC (if you stop using it but it is running for AT LEAST ONE MINUTE!)


I have been trying to find a way to customize this to my liking but the one way I thought you could did not work, it would always automatically revert to the default as designed by MSE.

Anyone have suggestions?
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26 Aug 2011   #7

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Legacy,
MSE is purposely designed to not interfere.

MSE is the least intrusive AV you can get.

High CPU usage is not due to MSE.

don't fix problems which don't exist.

If you are curious about what processes are doing what then there is resmon.exe and also procmon from the sysinternals folk.
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26 Aug 2011   #8

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

@Karl:


It is causing the high CPU with my PC, I have kept track of it and consistently the CPU is spiking between the mid 20s and 99% when the PC is idle!

Also I noticed that if you are watching a video MsMpEng.exe WILL start to function on my PC causing the video to freeze up.

For the record this was NOT a problem with v1 at all. No old Security suites on this PC either. Only when I downloaded v2 (kb2544035) did I start having problems with this.

Also I looked in the event viewer and noticed that following the install of kb2544035) v2 I noticed that I have a couple of "MpSampleSubmission" errors ID event 5000 and 5001. Never had this until I installed v2.
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26 Aug 2011   #9

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

legacy,

Your problems are not due to the MSE version.

As a starter run sfc /scannow
SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker

Carry out following:
LIST OF STARTUP AND INSTALLED PROGRAMS USING CCLEANER


STARTUP PROGRAMS
CCleaner | Tools icon | Startup button | click on Save to text file button (bottom right side)

Using the PAPER CLIP icon in the top panel of a Message Reply window, attach the startup.txt file generated by CCleaner.

INSTALLED PROGRAMS
CCleaner | Tools icon | Uninstall button | click on Save to text file button (bottom right side)

Using the PAPER CLIP icon in the top panel of a Message Reply window, attach the install.txt file generated by CCleaner.

You will find a link to ccleaner in my sig
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26 Aug 2011   #10

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bokiboss View Post
Thanks GEWB,

I am not sure about Anti-Virus. I will double check.
But I will definitely check Scheduler.
Also I believe I have disabled Indexing long time ago but now I am not sure whether I did only on my old laptop.
Thank you very much. I will come back with some results soon as I check this settings.
In Task Manager click CPU column at the top to sort by CPU usage with highest first. See if you can get a look at the apps using the most. I found with Vista and a bit less with Windows 7 that I had to turn off Windows Indexing and also Windows Media Player. They both kept wanting to index every file on my system. Disk and CPU was being used by the machine instead of by me.

Keeping WMP from making libraries out of my media files helped a lot. It wanted to look at every file to decide if it should be in the library. Also I turned off all the stuff about it sharing media files over the network.
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