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Windows 7: Cool'and'Quiet, How can I tell if it is working?

31 Aug 2011   #31
dustywoodworker

Windows 7x32 Home Premium & XP SP3 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GEWB View Post
Hello dustywoodworker-

Sorry I didn't get back sooner but the Weber grill was calling. Stormy seems to have things in order - I'll poke my nose in tomorrow.

Regards,
GEWB
No I had not because the 2nd screen shot says the driver was not loaded. A W7 compatibility issue.


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31 Aug 2011   #32
dustywoodworker

Windows 7x32 Home Premium & XP SP3 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Punkster View Post
Hello there, dww!

Well, you could check on the BIOS and you'll find if it's enabled or disabled, another way to check that out is to use CPU-Z on a idle state (don't do anything besides having the CPU-Z window open) and under Clocks, see if the core clock matches your actual processor speed.

IE: if your processor is an Athlon II X4 640, your core clock should be 3.0GHz, but with cool 'n' quiet enabled, in an idle state, the processor underclocks itself to save power.

This means that if you have CnC enabled, the processor's core clock could (could)! be 800MHz.
So I can conclude that Cool'n'Quiet has not throttled the CPU because my core speed is 2.78ghz. Therefore, Cool'n'Quiet is not operational (disabled).

Is there something like CPU-Z that I can use to display the temperatures that are displayed in the BIOS?


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31 Aug 2011   #33
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

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I'm wondering if the overclock on the bus speed is causing CnQ to not work. The CPU may be running close to its default speed of 2.8 GHz, but to get there the bus speed should be at 200 and the multiplier at 14; not the 232 and 12 that CPUz is showing. The one setting in the bios of yours that could be the cause of it not working is Nvidia's own setting called "Linkboost",

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which only shows up in the bios when 2 specific Nvidia video cards are used, the 7900 GTX and the 7950 GX2, one of which happens to be listed in your specs.

Ideally it shouldn't make any difference as mine is overclocked from 2.8 GHz to 3.3 GHz and CnQ works as it should with the CPU speed falling to 940 MHz when at idle, then again I also don't have a Nvidia chipset which again ideally shouldn't make any difference.


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31 Aug 2011   #34
dustywoodworker

Windows 7x32 Home Premium & XP SP3 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
I'm wondering if the overclock on the bus speed is causing CnQ to not work. The CPU may be running close to its default speed of 2.8 GHz, but to get there the bus speed should be at 200 and the multiplier at 14; not the 232 and 12 that CPUz is showing. The one setting in the bios of yours that could be the cause of it not working is Nvidia's own setting called "Linkboost",

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which only shows up in the bios when 2 specific Nvidia video cards are used, the 7900 GTX and the 7950 GX2, one of which happens to be listed in your specs.

Ideally it shouldn't make any difference as mine is overclocked from 2.8 GHz to 3.3 GHz and CnQ works as it should with the CPU speed falling to 940 MHz when at idle, then again I also don't have a Nvidia chipset which again ideally shouldn't make any difference.
This is a major deviation from the subject being discussed here but would you please explain how you get a snip of a bios screen.
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31 Aug 2011   #35
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

From the PDF manual for the motherboard. Section 4.4.5, page 4-27 to be precise.


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31 Aug 2011   #36
dustywoodworker

Windows 7x32 Home Premium & XP SP3 x86
 
 

I must apologize to those of you who have dedicated time and effort to help me resolve this problem. I apologize because the problem that I have been attempting to deal with is not Cool'and'Quiet as I stated but rather with PC Probe II.

As I watch the performance characteristics in the bios, I can see that Cool'and'Quet function are being performed. I do not have them visible on the desktop; this is the function of"ASUS PC Probe II" and NOT "Cool'and'Quiet".
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31 Aug 2011   #37
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Do yourself a favor and get rid of PC Probe, especially if it is from either the driver disk or the antiquated version (from 2007and for Vista) that Asus has available for download for your board. Personally I avoid it since the time I tested it and it couldn't read the voltages on my motherboard, not a good thing to have happen with the manufacturer's own monitoring software. If it is one of those old versions, that is probably also what is causing the hanging problems.

There are quite a few better and free alternatives you can use to monitor temps/voltages/etc,

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31 Aug 2011   #38
dustywoodworker

Windows 7x32 Home Premium & XP SP3 x86
 
 

Thanks, I downloaded CPUID and it seems to be doing what I need. I gotta watch temperatures for a day or two to make sure they are not too high.

In fact, I need to study some to decide what is the correct (safe) range of temperatures. I have spent some time in the forums for overclockers. This has shown me a few things about clock rates and temperatures but I still have a lot to learn.

Now that I understand Cool'n'Quiet objectives, I have decided I want COOL even if it is not QUIET. I think my core temperatures could be lowered and I am willing to hear the fans if that is necessary.

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Thank you Stormy and GEWB. You have been great educators. Thank you for responding to my low tech questions.


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01 Sep 2011   #39
GEWB

Linux (Mint is primary) / XP, Win7 Home / Win7 Pro, Ultimate / Win8.1 / Win10 archived VM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dustywoodworker View Post
I gotta watch temperatures for a day or two to make sure they are not too high.

I think my core temperatures could be lowered and I am willing to hear the fans if that is necessary.
Given the temps in your screen shot, those are not out of line at all. Don't even think about temp problems until those temps exceed 60C.

Regards,
GEWB
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01 Sep 2011   #40
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Don't know about silence but the fan should run at a lower RPM if the CPU temp is low enough and you enable this in the bios,

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and set it to Optimal.


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