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Windows 7: System is very slow after installing a new graphic card

28 Sep 2011   #11
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bassfisher6522 View Post
You should be ok with your current PSU.

When installing a new GPU, you first should un-install current/old graphics driver. The easiest way is to un-install is from the device manager. Here's a link from AMD how to go about it.
20870InstallGuideforATIHardware&Drivers


When you physically install the new GPU and boot up the system, you should have loaded in the cd/dvd bay the provided install disc which has the software (CCC panel) and driver on it. Or go to the vendors website and get the latest version. Just putting the card in and letting windows use the generic drivers is a really bad idea. Here's a link for the latest AMD drivers for your card.
ATI Radeon

Note: Kaspersky AV is known to cause BSOD's and crashes.
Many thanks BassFisher

Kaspersky: Never seen that problem. With XP i had some problem with Norton. Then I switch tp Kasperky and kept it with Win7. Witch AV is suggested with Win7

- As you suggested, I will keep my PSU and monitor voltages

- Last night, I did un-install drivers, then turn off / turn on. Then I reload all drivers from Asus web site

Martin


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28 Sep 2011   #12
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

System was OK until now.... Major slow down again

Using Asus PcProbe II
Voltage:
12v: 11.98v
3.3v: 3.28v
5v: 5.07v
Vcore: 1.14v

Temperature:
CPU temp: 97 ' F
M. Board temp: 113' F

CPU clock:
2934 rpm

Something else to monitor?
Any good diagnostic software?

Martin
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28 Sep 2011   #13
Schroff87

7 ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by arjfca View Post
OK, I will keep that in my mind. Do you use other software to maintain stability or you leave Windows 7 do the job.

I also use CCleaner to cancel or remove installed software

What I have done so far...

I cleaned a bit the CPU heatsink , Removed my PC slide panel and close down my PC for the night. Since this morning, system look OK.

I suspect a limit power supply. My actual one is rated at 600w. Graphic card minimum suggested is 550w. Also, I will try to reduce the heat more efficiently with a dust cleanup and maybe another fan

To be follow....

Martin
Let windows do its own thing. That cleaning business still had its use back in the XP days but in Vista above it's not necessary. You will not gain any performance by deleting a couple of keys and risk stability. Infact the only time I've had to reinstall windows was due to major hardware changes.

You have cleaned your heatsink? I hope you didn't remove the heatsink from the CPU? If you did I hope you remembered to put a fresh layer of thermal paste.

You have a 600w power supply, which brand? If it is a generic one then the 600W claim made on the sticker is not true. Most problems faced by GPUs are thanks to poor quality power supply and usually cause permanent damage.

You keep mentioning your system becomes slow, please elaborate when it becomes slow - what were you doing and hard disk activity.

To make a quick and easily compared test, run 3dmark Vantage and tell us your score.
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28 Sep 2011   #14
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Schroff87 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by arjfca View Post

I suspect a limit power supply. My actual one is rated at 600w. Graphic card minimum suggested is 550w. Also, I will try to reduce the heat more efficiently with a dust cleanup and maybe another fan

To be follow....

Martin
Let windows do its own thing. That cleaning business still had its use back in the XP days but in Vista above it's not necessary. You will not gain any performance by deleting a couple of keys and risk stability. Infact the only time I've had to reinstall windows was due to major hardware changes.

You have cleaned your heatsink? I hope you didn't remove the heatsink from the CPU? If you did I hope you remembered to put a fresh layer of thermal paste.

You have a 600w power supply, which brand? If it is a generic one then the 600W claim made on the sticker is not true. Most problems faced by GPUs are thanks to poor quality power supply and usually cause permanent damage.

You keep mentioning your system becomes slow, please elaborate when it becomes slow - what were you doing and hard disk activity.

To make a quick and easily compared test, run 3dmark Vantage and tell us your score.
Hello Schroff87

- I did not removed the fan on my CPU. So not the point to put back grease
- PSU: 600 w Cooler Master

- I was doing nothing special on my system when problem arise. Sure I got many application running at the same time, but nothing unusual for me. I had not these problem before upgrading my graphic card

I will load the 3dmark Vantage software and report. Never used that

Martin
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28 Sep 2011   #15
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

As suggested by Schroff87 I did install 3D mark Vantage

Problem is it wont run on my PC.

Message ( in French, translation after(

3DMark a cessé de fonctionner

Un problème a fait que le programme a cessé de fonctionner correctement. Windows va fermer ce programme et vous indiquer si une solution existe


3DMark as stopped

A problem as caused a malfunctioning of the program and it was stopped. Windows will close it and report if a solution is available

Hummm

- I un-Installed and re-installed it
- I'm running Win 7 64. Could it be the cause? I did not see a special download for 64

Martin

P.S. excuse my bad English
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28 Sep 2011   #16
Schroff87

7 ultimate x64
 
 

It works fine in Win 7 x64. Download a program called OCCT and run it for 15 minutes for each type of test (there are 3 - small, medium and large sized) it tests the CPU, RAM & motherboard for stability. Do not touch the GPU & power supply options in it.
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28 Sep 2011   #17
Corazon

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

Actually, if that 600W power supply is a cheap or no-name brand, it isn't gonna live up to its advertised rating and might well only be able to pump out 450W or 500W of continuous power before becoming too unstable. If it's a quality PSU then yes, it should be OK.
btw: CCC is the Catalyst Control Center (ATI's horribly bloated advanced settings control panel - I never used it when I had ATI cards).

Whoah, lots of posts squeezed in before mine
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28 Sep 2011   #18
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Schroff87

I just finished the test with OCCT. No error found with it. Test as been done on the 3 levels for 15 minutes each

I saw a difference on the voltage reporting by asus ProbeII and OCCT

ASUS OCCT
5V 5.07 4.75
3V 3.28 3.28
12v 12.04 12.71
Vcore 1.14 1.15

I will it running tonigth

Anything else I could do?
Any software to use to test the installation for drivers, Javascript, shockwave or whatever is needed to run smoothly the PC

Martin
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28 Sep 2011   #19
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Corazon View Post
Actually, if that 600W power supply is a cheap or no-name brand, it isn't gonna live up to its advertised rating and might well only be able to pump out 450W or 500W of continuous power before becoming too unstable. If it's a quality PSU then yes, it should be OK.
btw: CCC is the Catalyst Control Center (ATI's horribly bloated advanced settings control panel - I never used it when I had ATI cards).

Whoah, lots of posts squeezed in before mine
Hello Corazon

What is the symptom of a bad power supply?
How could I test it?

See previous post for the voltage reporting from Asus ProbeII and OCCT

Martin
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29 Sep 2011   #20
Schroff87

7 ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by arjfca View Post
Schroff87

I just finished the test with OCCT. No error found with it. Test as been done on the 3 levels for 15 minutes each

ASUS OCCT
5V 5.07 4.75
3V 3.28 3.28
12v 12.04 12.71
Vcore 1.14 1.15

Martin
It is good that OCCT has found no errors, means your CPU, RAM & mobo are functioning properly. Is your direct x upto date? Could be why Vantage gave an error & quit. Google for Direct X redist june 2010 and install that, Vantage should install then. Which card did you have in the system before the 4870?
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