| Windows 7: Windows 7 SP1 x64 and ReadyBoost Flash Drive |
12 Oct 2011
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#11 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Fall River, MA |

Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost 
Quote: Originally Posted by Beta You do not need to change to x86. Windows 7 x64 does not have more overhead it just cashes more memory at boot. You will not see any proformace diffrence in x86 Windows 7. Not true at all. Windows 7 x64 does have a higher memory footprint, with or without "caching" taken into consideration. It isn't about performance, either. I never said Photoshop would run faster. I said there would be more system memory available to it. Big difference. I understand, thanks! | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built/Dragon Mach V OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU Intel i7 950 3.06GHZ Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme Memory 24GB (6x4) 1600mhz DDR2 Graphics Card ATI Crossfire Dual Card Digital Sound Card Creative SB X=Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Monitor(s) Displays Asus VH242H 24" DVI LCD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Mouse Microsoft Comfort 6000 blue optical wired PSU OCZ ZX Series 1000 Watt Modular Case Icon2 Black Dragon Mach V Cooling Mach V Liquid Cooling Hard Drives 2 - Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 10,000 SATA 6 internal Drives
1 - Western Digital Cavial Blue 1TB USB External Elements Drive Internet Speed Rated - 20/5 Typical 35/6 |
12 Oct 2011
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#12 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Before you get an idea what Ready Boot may do for you, check whether you have any sigbificant paging traffic. Go to Resource Monitor > Memory tab - there is a small graph on the right bottom called "Hard Faults". If you see a lot of activity there, RB may help - provided you have a stick with an access time of around 1ms. That you can check with HD Tune. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
12 Oct 2011
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#13 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 and Mac OS X 10.8.3 |
When Windows is "caching" it is not using it. Therefor it looks like more ram is being used however it is still there ready to go when you need it.
When I open Adobe Photoshop CS5 (64 Bit) my ram usage goes up by 100mb. I have 2GB of ram which uses 1 GB of ram when nothing is being use. Keep in mind of all of the activators that need to be run for adobe, solidworks, autocad, and media software that will use a good portion of that 1GB of ram. Without those programs installed I get about 640MB of ram being used when nothing is running. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 and Mac OS X 10.8.3 CPU Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E at 4.75 GHz Motherboard ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Memory 8 x Corsair 8GB DDR3 64 GB Kit @1866 Overclocked @2000 Graphics Card GTX 580 and MSI R6870 Sound Card HDMI on GPU and ACL898 Monitor(s) Displays 32" Sony EX-500 120Hz Screen Resolution 1920x1080P Keyboard HP Wireless Elite Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Elite Mouse PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case Corsair 800D Cooling Corsair H80 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler Hard Drives 1 x Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F60GBGT-BK (OS)
2 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata III 750GB (Raid 0)
1 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata III 1TB (Media)
2 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata II 640GB (Raid 0) Internet Speed Cable, VisionTek Bigfoot Killer 2100 Gaming Network Card Other Info 4 x GELID Solutions FN-TX12-15 120mm Case Fan with Superior Temperature Control
1 x Corsair 140mm Case Fan
1 x SilverStone FP55B Aluminum front panel 5.25" to a 3.5" bay converter
1 x Ultra Card Reader
1 x Sony Blu-ray Burner BD-5300S-0B |
12 Oct 2011
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#14 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |

Quote: Originally Posted by Beta When Windows is "caching" it is not using it. Therefor it looks like more ram is being used however it is still there ready to go when you need it. And a cache can be dumped if more memory is needed. That's not relevant to my point, though. It is a known, proven fact that Windows 7 x64 has a higher footprint/memory usage than Windows 7 x86. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
12 Oct 2011
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#15 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Fall River, MA |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs Before you get an idea what Ready Boot may do for you, check whether you have any significant paging traffic. Go to Resource Monitor > Memory tab - there is a small graph on the right bottom called "Hard Faults". If you see a lot of activity there, RB may help - provided you have a stick with an access time of around 1ms. That you can check with HD Tune. OK, yes I saw several hard faults, I don't know what constitutes a lot. But I checked the flash drive I have plugged in now (the cheap PNY 8G slider my wife bought because she thought it was cute) and got 32R/20W and an average access time of 0.7 so since this really didn't cost me anything, my wife paid $9.00 for it, it tests faster than many others I tried that are supposed to be faster, and are way more expensive I am just going to keep this one. If there is even a remote possibility that it will assist Windows in any way I will just leave it alone to do it's thing. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built/Dragon Mach V OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU Intel i7 950 3.06GHZ Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme Memory 24GB (6x4) 1600mhz DDR2 Graphics Card ATI Crossfire Dual Card Digital Sound Card Creative SB X=Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Monitor(s) Displays Asus VH242H 24" DVI LCD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Mouse Microsoft Comfort 6000 blue optical wired PSU OCZ ZX Series 1000 Watt Modular Case Icon2 Black Dragon Mach V Cooling Mach V Liquid Cooling Hard Drives 2 - Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 10,000 SATA 6 internal Drives
1 - Western Digital Cavial Blue 1TB USB External Elements Drive Internet Speed Rated - 20/5 Typical 35/6 |
12 Oct 2011
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#16 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Your stick is excellent at 0.7ms access time.
Which number of hard faults is critical and significant in RB terms ?? - that is more difficult to answer. I would say if you have a consistent high number of hard faults (like 100/sec), then RB may have an effect. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
12 Oct 2011
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#17 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
12 Oct 2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost How much system memory does she have? If it's over 1 GB, then it's been well-proven that you would be seeing the placebo effect and nothing more. Readyboost was designed for systems with less than required system memory, as a way of offering extra memory that was faster than a pagefile. That isn't actually very true at all - first, it's worth noting that ReadyBoost on systems with less RAM makes it more useful, but it does more than act as a Superfetch / ReadyBoot cache, it can also be used to supplement disk cache (when Windows starts using RAM for disk cache when a disk gets really busy, it will use a ReadyBoost USB key specifically for this). If the hard disk in this machine is relatively slow when under a heavy load of random reads during write or random writes during read, a ReadyBoost key can actually be more than the placebo effect and have a real impact. Just because someone has a lot of RAM doesn't mean using a ReadyBoost key is a placebo. Second, ReadyBoost doesn't get used for RAM at all, it can only be used as a SuperFetch/ReadyBoot cache and disk cache - a ReadyBoost key can't contain anything other than that, meaning it has little effect on RAM (the system will still use approximately the same amount of RAM for a Superfetch cache regardless of whether or not a ReadyBoost key is attached to the system - it'll simply have a *larger* Superfetch cache when one is plugged in). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
13 Oct 2011
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#19 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |

Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti Just because someone has a lot of RAM doesn't mean using a ReadyBoost key is a placebo. That's actually been proven one two different enthusiast boards. That's why I posted it...because it's considered fact in the enthusiast community, thanks to plenty of testing on the [H]ardForum and Anandtech boards. The golden line has always been 1 GB of system memory. Under that line, you can see a benefit. Over the line, nothing worthwhile. Those folks are all about real world testing and sharing of results.
It adds extra memory storage to offload a lot of the caching, keeping the main system memory more available for actively running apps. That's the point, to offload the cache to something faster and more responsive than a regular HDD. Ideally, you want it in RAM, but if the system offers too little, Readyboost can help. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
13 Oct 2011
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#20 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost 
Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti Just because someone has a lot of RAM doesn't mean using a ReadyBoost key is a placebo. That's actually been proven one two different enthusiast boards. That's why I posted it...because it's considered fact in the enthusiast community, thanks to plenty of testing on the [H]ardForum and Anandtech boards. The golden line has always been 1 GB of system memory. Under that line, you can see a benefit. Over the line, nothing worthwhile. Those folks are all about real world testing and sharing of results.
It adds extra memory storage to offload a lot of the caching, keeping the main system memory more available for actively running apps. That's the point, to offload the cache to something faster and more responsive than a regular HDD. Ideally, you want it in RAM, but if the system offers too little, Readyboost can help. Deacon,
There is something I do not understand. My understanding of Ready Boost is that it is used as an additionl paging file. The system writes pages that need to be swapped out (page out) to both the pagefile on the HDD and to the stick (the reason it also writes it to the HDD is for safety in case you pull the stick. unexpectedly).
When the page is needed again, it pulls it in from the stick (page in). The performance advantage comes from the much faster access time of a good stick compared to an average HDD (1ms versus 15ms).
You now stipulate that the stick is also used for caching - and I assume you mean independent of any paging activity. This is news to me. I would appreciate if you could post a link of some write-up (preferably by MS) where this mechanism is described. Thank you. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 Windows 7 SP1 x64 and ReadyBoost Flash Drive problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:25 AM. | |