| Windows 7: Very slow boot time, decreased general performance |
21 Oct 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Very slow boot time, decreased general performance Hi All.
I used to run my PC on Vista Ultimate 64bit and was very happy ith its performance, but after seeing it forget the window layout for the umpteenth time, I decided to install Windows 7.
Purchased a Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Systembuilder package, formatted all my drives and installed it. Turns out there was a problem with the boot manager.
The repair function of the installation DVD didn't really do anything, so I re-installed the whole thing and this time it worked ... sort of.
I get to see my desktop pretty quickly, but then it takes more than 2 minutes to load the 3 sidebar gadgets, open Wampserver (which I need for work) and connect to my home network. During that time the CPU is near idle (1-10% CPU usage) but it won't respond to any commands. The "Computer" won't open, right-click menus don't open, etc.
In Vista I could play GTA4 with all settings maxed out at 55fps. Now the PC is struggling to reach 30.
Before the install, I have re-downloaded all my drivers from the various manufacturers' websites, to make sure they were all for Windows 7 x64. The Device manager isn't indicating any problems either.
I'm no noob when it comes to PCs and have plenty of experience with sorting out OS-related issues, but I'm truely lost here. This OS has been fighting me on this PC from day one.
I'm having all kinds of internet-related software problems (Skype failing to make calls, Wampserver not showing full connection, etc) and even resorted to another re-install recently.
On Vista the problems disappeared and it responded instantly, but I then installed Windows 7 again and I'm back at square one.
I must add that I have a laptop and a tablet on Windows 7 and neither of them is having any issues. I like Windows 7 and would like to keep using it on this PC, but with these problems I'm about to revert back to Vista. If anyone has any suggestions, feel free to respond.
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Hardware specs :
MoBo : Gigabyte P67A UD3P B3
CPU : Intel Core i5 2500 @ 3.3 GHz (stock speed)
Memory : 16GB (4x4GB) GeIL Black Dragon DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-24
GFX card : 1x ATI Radeon HD4870X2
PSU : BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro 850W
HDD 1 : OCZ RevoDrive X2 240GB (System disk)
HDD 2 : OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD (Game modding disk)
HDD 3 : Seagate ST31000340AS Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM (Data disk)
HDD 4 : Samsung HD240UI 2TB 5400RPM (Media disk)
DVD 1 : Sony Optiarc DVD RW AD-5260S
DVD 2 : Sony Optiarc DVD RW AD-7261S (Lightscribe)
The GFX card and PSU are 2.5 years old, but the rest of the PC was bought in March 2011. The motherboard was replaced in May due to suffering from the known SandyBridge issue with the S-ATA controller.
Software-wise :
I run the usual stuff. LibreOffice, Paintshop Pro, etc. Wampserver is required for my work, but that doesn't give any problems on my Windows 7 laptop. The problem appears on a default system, so I'm pretty sure that none of my applications are responsible.
Normally I don't use an antivirus on this PC. I'm a careful browser and have another machine with AVG for downloading. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i5 2500 @ 3.3GHz (stock speed) Motherboard Gigabyte P67A UD3P B3 Memory 16GB (4x4GB) GeIL Black Dragon DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-24 Graphics Card 1x ATI Radeon HD4870X2 Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2x Samsung Syncmaster 2333sw Screen Resolution 3840 x 1080 (2x 1920x1080) Keyboard Logitech DiNovo Edge + Logitech N305 numerical keyboard Mouse Logitech Trackman M570 PSU BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro 850W Case Cooler Master Haf X Cooling CPU : Cooler Master V8. Case : 1x230mm, 3x 200mm, 1x 120mm Hard Drives System disk : OCZ RevoDrive X2 240GB
Game Modding Disk : OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD
Data Disk : Seagate ST31000340AS Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM
Media Disk : Samsung HD240UI 2TB 5400RPM Internet Speed 40Mb/s Other Info Windows Experience Index : 7.1
Processor : 7.5
Memory : 7.6
Graphics : 7.1
Gaming Graphics : 7.1
Primary hard disk : 7.7 |
21 Oct 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP |
Hi and welcome to 7forums!
1st where did you get the Windows 7 dvd from?
2nd what antivirus are you using if any?
You might have low fps, because you haven't installed the drivers yet? (no CF) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built PC OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz 36°C Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z68X-UD3-B3 (Socket 1155) 40°C Memory 4GB Hyperx 1600MHz stock XMP Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 stock or 900-1800, 1804 memory Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster SA350 (SMS24A350H) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 pixels, 32 bits, 60 Hz Keyboard Trust Isla Wired Keyboard Mouse Gigabyte ECO600 (with extended usb wireless adapter) PSU 500W Coolink Case Cooler Master Elite 335 Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus single fan Hard Drives 64GB Silicon Power E20 SSD (Intel SRT cache);
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0 38°C (cached);
733GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD753LJ 27°C; Internet Speed down: 27 Mbps, up: 12 Mbps Other Info Optical Drive: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F
Printer: HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-one
Genius G-Pen F610 (PenPad)
Genius 2.0 speakers, JBL speakers, Technics RPF880 Headphones
soft: Gdata, Zemana Antilogger, Nero, MSI Afterburner, Core Temp, CPUZ, Auslogics Disk Defrag |
21 Oct 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Hi Speedgamer01. Thanks for the welcome.
I got the DVD from my PC store. It's an official one, so that's not the issue. Most of the store's customers are smaller PC stores, but they sell to private customers as well.
I know it's not completely within the spirit of the EULA, but I guess most people use an OEM even on homebuilt computers.
I don't use an antivirus normally, but I installed AVG today and let it do a full scan just in case. Then I let ClamWin do another scan. Neither scan found any issues.
The PC has this problem even on a fresh install, so I doubt any virusses could cause it anyway. (unless Microsoft puts some supersneaky virus in the official Windows7 DVDs)
Regarding CF, I have the 11.9 Catalist software suite for the HD 4xxx series, and Speccy confirms that CF is indeed disabled.
On Vista I was also using the generic driver for the 4xxx series, so I'm pretty certain that CF was disabled there too. When gaming in Vista it also only used one GPU. I never took much notice of that tho, as the card was strong enough for my needs even on one GPU
I will try with a driver I just found that's specifically for the 4870X2, but I doubt that it'll make that much of a difference in terms of boot time.
TBH I doubt that any display-related issues can cause my networking problems. The slow boot might also be caused by network problems, as the network icon in the notifications bar is on "loading" for more than a minute.
I have just removed the network drivers, ran CCleaner and re-installed them, but to no avail. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i5 2500 @ 3.3GHz (stock speed) Motherboard Gigabyte P67A UD3P B3 Memory 16GB (4x4GB) GeIL Black Dragon DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-24 Graphics Card 1x ATI Radeon HD4870X2 Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2x Samsung Syncmaster 2333sw Screen Resolution 3840 x 1080 (2x 1920x1080) Keyboard Logitech DiNovo Edge + Logitech N305 numerical keyboard Mouse Logitech Trackman M570 PSU BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro 850W Case Cooler Master Haf X Cooling CPU : Cooler Master V8. Case : 1x230mm, 3x 200mm, 1x 120mm Hard Drives System disk : OCZ RevoDrive X2 240GB
Game Modding Disk : OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD
Data Disk : Seagate ST31000340AS Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM
Media Disk : Samsung HD240UI 2TB 5400RPM Internet Speed 40Mb/s Other Info Windows Experience Index : 7.1
Processor : 7.5
Memory : 7.6
Graphics : 7.1
Gaming Graphics : 7.1
Primary hard disk : 7.7 |
21 Oct 2011
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#4 | | |
If you're feeling up to it, consider getting / uploading a boot trace following this tutorial: Gathering a Startup, Shutdown, Sleep, Hibernate, or Reboot Trace | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
21 Oct 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Cluberti,
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm afraid I'm facing a bigger problem now.
I followed the steps VERY carefully and double-checked each one of them to make sure I didn't miss anything.
Upon entering the command line and hitting enter, the PC rebooted by itself and I'm now stuck with a BSOD.
No idea what the error is, as it reboots within milliseconds of the bluescreen appearing. I barely have time to identify the blue flash as a BSOD before it goes black again.
Startup repair and booting in Safe mode don't work. I can't attach my C drive to another computer because it's a RevoDrive as opposed to a S-ATA device, so I can't retrieve my latest stuff. Luckily I made a backup recently.
I'm afraid I'm giving up on this for now. This has been getting on my nerves for a month now, so I'm going to install Vista and run a full set of hardware diagnostics before I make the switch to 7 again.
I've used the same DVD on my laptop recently (abeit with the serial that came with that one), so I know it's not a file corruption on the DVD. Must be some conflict between Windows 7 and my PC's hardware. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i5 2500 @ 3.3GHz (stock speed) Motherboard Gigabyte P67A UD3P B3 Memory 16GB (4x4GB) GeIL Black Dragon DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-24 Graphics Card 1x ATI Radeon HD4870X2 Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2x Samsung Syncmaster 2333sw Screen Resolution 3840 x 1080 (2x 1920x1080) Keyboard Logitech DiNovo Edge + Logitech N305 numerical keyboard Mouse Logitech Trackman M570 PSU BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro 850W Case Cooler Master Haf X Cooling CPU : Cooler Master V8. Case : 1x230mm, 3x 200mm, 1x 120mm Hard Drives System disk : OCZ RevoDrive X2 240GB
Game Modding Disk : OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD
Data Disk : Seagate ST31000340AS Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM
Media Disk : Samsung HD240UI 2TB 5400RPM Internet Speed 40Mb/s Other Info Windows Experience Index : 7.1
Processor : 7.5
Memory : 7.6
Graphics : 7.1
Gaming Graphics : 7.1
Primary hard disk : 7.7 |
21 Oct 2011
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#6 | | |
Boot to "Last Known Good", and then omit the +DRIVERS part of the command. You're hitting a bug, and omitting +DRIVERS will fix it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
21 Oct 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Didn't work either. "Last known good" bluescreens too.
Might be a bad install somehow, but that would make it the 3rd one in 3 attempts.
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EDIT : I gave up and installed Vista. Now I can open "computer" or IE as soon as I see the desktop. No hesitation whatsoever. the rest of the PC-using experience is more than twice as fast too.
I'm still curious about the problem tho. I don't see what I could have done wrong. Maybe I should go for dualboot, or set up a Windows 7 in Virtualbox to see how that responds.
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EDIT 2 : Speedgamer,
Once more regarding CF : I did a bit of checking, and my card has it disabled during normal use. Whenever I launch a game that supports CF, the card goes into CF mode. Drivers are irrelevant here, that behaviour is hardwired into the card itself. So that was not the reason behind my issues
Last edited by XSaenen; 21 Oct 2011 at 09:05 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i5 2500 @ 3.3GHz (stock speed) Motherboard Gigabyte P67A UD3P B3 Memory 16GB (4x4GB) GeIL Black Dragon DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-24 Graphics Card 1x ATI Radeon HD4870X2 Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2x Samsung Syncmaster 2333sw Screen Resolution 3840 x 1080 (2x 1920x1080) Keyboard Logitech DiNovo Edge + Logitech N305 numerical keyboard Mouse Logitech Trackman M570 PSU BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro 850W Case Cooler Master Haf X Cooling CPU : Cooler Master V8. Case : 1x230mm, 3x 200mm, 1x 120mm Hard Drives System disk : OCZ RevoDrive X2 240GB
Game Modding Disk : OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD
Data Disk : Seagate ST31000340AS Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM
Media Disk : Samsung HD240UI 2TB 5400RPM Internet Speed 40Mb/s Other Info Windows Experience Index : 7.1
Processor : 7.5
Memory : 7.6
Graphics : 7.1
Gaming Graphics : 7.1
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